As the drumbeat for a preemptive war against Iraq grows louder, neo-conservative think tanks and their fellow travelers have deputized themselves to police what may be said about the Middle East. Through defamation and innuendo, they hope to undermine the legitimacy of those who question if a war with Iraq is prudent, necessary, and morally justified. Universities, which thrive on lively debate and diversity of opinion, have been especially targeted for supervision.

In March, former Secretary of Education and Drug Czar William Bennett, who poses as the Martha Stewart of public morality, launched Americans for Victory over Terrorism. AVOT, a project of Empower America, aims to "take to task those who blame America first and who do not understand - or who are unwilling to defend - our fundamental principles." On March 10 Bennett published a full page open letter as an ad in the New York Times describing the external and internal threats to the United States. The external threat comprises "radical Islamists and others." The internal threat consists of "those who are attempting to use this opportunity to promulgate their agenda of 'blame America first.'"

Who are those sinister internal enemies? According to AVOT they include former President Jimmy Carter because he criticized George Bush's "axis of evil" concept as "overly simplistic" and "counter-productive". Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Cleveland) makes the list for accusing President Bush of "canceling in effect the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, and Eight Amendments" to the Constitution and calling the war on terrorism "the patriot games, the lying games, the war games of an unelected president." Others AVOT deems dangerous threats include Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D- Los Angeles), Robert Kuttner, editor of American Prospect, and Lewis Lapham, editor of Harper's Magazine.

Another effort to police dissent is focused on those who teach Middle East studies on college campuses. Middle East Forum, a think tank run by Daniel Pipes and supportive of the Israeli right wing, has established a Campus Watch website. After failing in his own pursuit of an academic career, Pipes has evidently decided to take revenge on the scholarly community that rejected him.

Campus Watch seeks to "monitor and gather information on professors who fan the flames of disinformation, incitement, and ignorance." Campus Watch does not care to ask whether scholars who study the Middle East might actually know something that would lead them to think that the world is not simply divided between the forces of good (us) and the forces of evil (them). Instead, it has compiled dossiers on professors and universities that do not meet its standard of uncritical support for the policies of George Bush and Ariel Sharon.

Campus Watch alleges that Middle East scholars "seem generally to dislike their own country and think even less of American allies abroad. They portray U.S. policy in an unfriendly light and disparage allies." Apparently Campus Watch is able to penetrate the psyches of scholars whose opinions it does not sanction. Some Americans - Thomas Jefferson, for example - naively believed that dissent and debate are an integral part of the democratic process and essential to the formation of educated citizens. Campus watch apparently believes this tedious process allows too much room for unapproved thinking to emerge.

Campus Watch notes that "Middle East studies in the United States has become the preserve of Middle Eastern Arabs, who have brought their views with them. Membership in the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the main scholarly association, is now 50 percent of Middle Eastern origin." Some Americans have foolishly believed that all U.S. citizens have equal rights regardless of their country of origin and that pointing to peoples' country of origin to discredit them is a form of racism. This too, is outmoded thinking according to Campus Watch. But imagine the uproar that would be created by the suggestion that because Daniel Pipes is Jewish he may be more loyal to Israel than to the United States.

The activities of AVOT and Campus Watch recall the era of Senator Joseph McCarthy, when Hollywood actors and writers, trade union leaders, liberal politicians, and university faculty members were branded as un-American communist sympathizers. McCarthy and his followers succeeded in narrowing the range of American political debate and cultural expression and depriving many innocent people of their careers and livelihoods. Tenured faculty members do not generally risk losing their jobs. But graduate students and untenured faculty are likely to feel intimidated, especially if university administrations do not firmly resist pressures from the likes of Campus Watch.

The day before the Campus Watch web site went up, Harvard University President Lawrence Summers addressed a student convocation and equated criticism of Israeli policies with anti-Semitism. He was responding to a call by 600 Harvard and MIT faculty, staff, and students to divest university funds from companies that do business in Israel as a protest against Israel's continuing occupation of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem. Similar efforts have been launched at some forty campuses. Given Harvard's leading status in American academia, Summers's sloppy thinking and smear tactics are a very bad omen.

By contrast, the administration of the University of North Carolina fully supported the faculty members who organized a reading program proposed for all incoming freshmen. The new students were to read and discuss a translation and interpretation of the early verses of the Qur'an, Approaching the Qur'an: The Early Revelations by Haverford Professor Michael Sells. That decision was assailed by a Christian right group as a violation of separation of church and state. Daniel Pipes jumped on the bandwagon, assailing the university for obscuring the violent character of Islam. It became one of the first institutions featured on Campus Watch. Nonetheless, the reading and discussion program went forward.

These efforts to stifle public debate about U.S. Middle East policy and criticism of Israel are being promoted by a network of neo-conservative true believers with strong links to the Israeli far right. They are enthusiastic supporters of the Bush administration's hands off approach to Ariel Sharon's suppression of the Palestinian uprising and aggressive proponents of a preemptive U.S. strike against Iraq.

AVOT is funded primarily by Lawrence Kadish, chairman of the Republican Jewish Coalition. He has long tried to build links between the Republican Party and American Jews. AVOT's senior advisors include former CIA director James Woolsey and Reagan-era Pentagon official Frank Gaffney. Woolsey is also on the board of the Jewish Institute for National Security, an ultra-hawkish pro-Israel group, as were Vice President Dick Cheney, Under Secretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton, and Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith before they assumed their current positions. Gaffney heads the Center for Security Policy, which is closely linked to the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).

Richard Perle, another member of the JINSA board and one of the strongest proponents of a preemptive war against Iraq, is chair of the Defense Policy Board, which advises the Pentagon. Soon after the September 11 attacks the Defense Policy Board convened a two-day seminar. The consensus of those attending was that removing Saddam Hussein from power should be an objective in the U.S. war on terrorism despite the lack of any evidence linking Iraq to the attacks or to al-Qaeda.

The Defense Policy Board then sent James Woolsey to London to gather evidence linking Iraq to the terrorist attacks. He announced that a member of al-Qaeda met with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague. Evidence that the meeting occurred or that it had anything to do with the September 11 attack is questionable.
On September 20 Perle, Gaffney, Bennett, and several other Defense Policy Board members sent an open letter to President Bush. "Even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the [September 11] attack, any strategy aiming at the eradication of terrorism and its sponsors must include a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq," they wrote. "Failure to undertake such an effort will constitute an early and perhaps decisive surrender in the war on international terrorism."

The Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), the most influential pro-Israel think tank in Washington, is linked to both the Iraq war hawks and the attack on Middle East studies. Richard Perle is a member of WINEP's Board of Advisors as was Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, a leading advocate for a war on Iraq, before he joined the Bush administration. Daniel Pipes is a WINEP adjunct scholar. Last year WINEP published a lengthy screed by Martin Kramer, former director of the Dayan Center for Middle East Studies at Tel Aviv University, trashing the entire field of Middle East studies: Ivory Towers on Sand: The Failure of Middle East Studies in America. Campus Watch appears to be inspired by this book. Kramer edits the Middle East Forum's journal, Middle East Quarterly and is a WINEP visiting fellow. Although he is not directly involved in Campus Watch, he has issued a statement supporting its aims.

This cabal of jingoistic war mongers is trying to stifle public debate on the Middle East as our country is considering launching a preemptive attack on Iraq. Does that make them more patriotic than those who think that Israel must actually end its occupation of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem, and not simply talk about the possibility of doing so? Are they more zealous defenders of our national security than those who believe that rushing into a war against Iraq without adequate reason could be a disaster for both the peoples of the United States and the Middle East?

sam keller - 11/5/2003

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Tired of hearing "Your Old Testament" is false, our Tanakah is the real truth." Well here is their Tanakah text and some utilities http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tanakah_vs_OT/files/u0100.htm so you can see through their farce.

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You think I just say all of this because I am an Arab? I guess I have to fess up, here is a pic of me and my camel Clyde.
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Knowing Hebrew is a joke, only valued by those ignorant of translation ... Yiddish is the equivalent of Ebonics
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i430502.htm
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It is my assertion that the first Church and Christians were Arabs
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/c0001.htm
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Who has deceived would be Christians into vile hate against Arabs? What did Christ himself have to say about Arabs... at the bottom of this web page.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/c0002.htm
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They were first called Christians at Antioch.. and of course THEY were Arabs
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/c0003.htm
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The Galatians were among the first Christians who existed at the time of Christ
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/c0004.htm
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About 300 years before the first middle Europeans became Christians the Damascus Syria Christians / Church existed
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/c0005.htm
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Egyptian Christians, How many years did Christ live in Egypt before returning to Israel
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The Ephesians Christians were Turks
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/c0007.htm
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Why Muslims n Christians waste their time and how all can benefit. Contains some nasty language
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You think I just say all of this because I am an Arab? I guess I have to
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Genealogy of Joseph is given, not Christ
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0250.htm
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Jesus King of the Jews? What did Christ say about that?
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0300.htm
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Jesus descendant of David. That is not what Christ said.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0350.htm
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One of the apostles of Christ was a Canaanite?
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False Jew Intro
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Real 'Jews' comparing faces
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0500.htm
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How could you hate a Jew, when they were not Jews in the first place?
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0550.htm
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Where were the Israelites scattered. Anthropology and the flight of Refugees
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0600.htm
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Faces of Euro frauds
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0625.htm
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Racism against Jews, Oh yeah what race would that be?
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0650.htm
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From Africa to America. Not evolution, mixed breeding.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0700.htm
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Scriptures proving some Israelites were white, in a pigs eye
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0725.htm
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Europeans vs. Non Europeans
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0750.htm
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How you know they couldn't be Israelites
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How many Arab / Negro faces did you see in WW2 films?
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The natives of Windover
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0875.htm
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DNA proof of being an Israelite descendant, the Y Chromosome. The farce of proving one is a descendant of the Israelites by genetics.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0900.htm
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There are diseases exclusive to Jews proving they are descendants of the Israelites. What is a Jewish disease?
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0925.htm
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Type written records, family tree data bases are a joke
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f0950.htm
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The chain can not be broken, not one broken link
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1000.htm
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Western Europeans vs. Chinese
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Jews by mother, then Jews could not exist
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1100.htm
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Jews by father, how many of your grandpas aren't grandpas at all
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Success of Jews prove they are descendants of Israelites.. giggle
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No one becomes a Jew through adoption
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Becoming a Jew through circumcision of the heart.. tee hee
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1300.htm
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Spiritual, Grafted, Adoption, Messianic .. silly stuff about becoming a Jew
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1350.htm
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Ruth the Moabite, never converted to Judaism nor was she allowed in the congregation
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Jews are descendants of Judah farce
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I am *PART Jewish. Who but an idiot says or believes such stupid things. They can't be part Jew and they are not the descendants of the Israelites
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European cult playing Israelites
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1550.htm
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The false Jew cult tells us the Israelite descendant descendants just started mixing in the last century. The cult exposed by their own scriptures.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1600.htm
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The cult calling themselves Jews are only a racist cult of Europeans who are descendants of the Babelites
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1650.htm
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What is the difference between 'Jews' and / Christian Identity
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Breeding is like spreading VD
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Goofy Tracks his family tree
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1800.htm
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You can track all Israelites to their roots in the scriptures. All of them were descendants of the native Arabs of the middle east. Here is a comparison.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1850.htm
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Jews of Yemen are not the ancestors of these pretend Jews of Europe
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1900.htm
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No such things as Ethiopian Jews exist
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f1950.htm
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Everyone who pretends to follow Judaism is the anti christs
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f2000.htm
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By the scriptures, anthropology, archeology what we can prove. If you have had an anthropology class in college, read this think about it then sit back and giggle.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f2100.htm
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SUCKING UP TO HITLER'S NEPHEW n the Inspector general
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f2150.htm
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Israelites were a pot luck of Arabs and a pinch of Africans
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Egyptian vs. pretend Jews
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f2250.htm
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How Arabs n Africans migrated to Europe and fell into a bucket of white paint
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Jews n Arabs are cousins ... NOT
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BABELITES VS MIDDLE EAST NATIVES
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KHAZARS N SEPHARDIC JEWS, not descendants of the Israelites, just European converts
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Family trees - How many grandparents have you had
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Those who call themselves Jews are like the little mongrel who thought he was a great Dane
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f2500.htm
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Anthropology study of the Bounty that proves the cult of pretend Jews are brainwashed Lemmings or liars
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f2550.htm
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Anthropology pattern of families
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Blonds were not native to China or any place on earth except Europe
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Anthropology study of sculls to reconstruct the faces of people proves the cult of Europeans are not the descendants of the Israelites. If you have had an anthropology course, check this one out
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Me an European vs. Arab. All Israelites were a mix of the people of the middle east so what is wrong with this picture of those calling themselves Jews?
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MOUSEKETEERS n JEWS, Israelites and Jews were NOT the same thing.
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Family trees shared heritage. The bald face lies you can expose in the cult of false Jews. Simply see if you can get them to reply to these questions in a public form.
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Why you can't tell a 'Jew' from other Europeans
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Anne Franke n family, a pot luck of Europeans
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The Nazis couldn't catch 'Jews' with forged papers, because they were Europeans, not natives of the middle east.
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If you are Christ then you are Abraham's seed Galat 3-28. That excludes everyone who professes to follow Judaism.
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If you work with figures and have a logical mind, calculate the number of Israelites that exist and what their population rate was.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/f5000.htm
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Aryans not white, Europeans not Aryans. The ancestors of the Iranians / Gypsies hung out with the Israelites and bred with them.
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Living in Europe .. breeding with Europeans does not mutate all descendants of the middle east into white face Europeans
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Gypsies from the middle east and "Jews" who are supposed to be from the middle east.. why the "Jews" all look like the rest of the Europeans?
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Being a small % of the population and 2000 years does not turn all your descendants into milk face Europeans
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/fg009.htm
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Ever look at all the "Jews" in the Nazi prison camps.. especially when they are naked.. all have the colors of Casper the ghost.
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Being brown or black does not mean your ancestors were Israelites BUT if all of your family members, generation after generation look like the rest of the Europeans, your ancestors are not from outside of Europe
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Family pick the 'Jews' out from the rest of the Europeans and the Arabs
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How Arabs and Africans migrated into Europe, fell into a flower barrel and all came out white Anglo Saxons
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Anti Semite farce
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Isaac was a Canaanite, Moses was an Egyptian. Nationality defined .
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The flood was world wide. E every living person is from Noah's sons
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Abraham, Isaac and everyone on earth until Jacob had his first son, was a gentile. God too is a gentile !
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The Israelites were a composite of Canaanites
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Most Hebrews were non Israelite
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Chaldeans ancestors of today's Iraqis and Abraham
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Asher son of Israel
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The multitude of the descendants of the Israelites are the Arabs. Today I suppose most descendants of the Israelites are Muslims who have lost track of their heritage of the Israelites
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Hagar the real Cinderella story
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Ishmael father of Arabs. Ishmael was only the father of the Ishmaelites. A multitude of Israelites too were descendants of Ishmael
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Ammon / Ammoites
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i0650.htm
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Jordanians or Moabites ancestors of the Israelites
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i0700.htm
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Philistines ancestors of the Israelites
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i0750.htm
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Concubines another reason Israelites are descendants of Arabs
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i0800.htm
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Midianites were the breeding stock of Arab wives of the Israelites
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Levites, priest and Moses, just descendants of Arabs
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i0900.htm
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Tribe of Judah a pot of Arabs
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i0950.htm
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Samson & The tribe of Dan
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Joseph coat of many colors .. Egyptian descendants
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1050.htm
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Benjamites a pot of Arabs
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1100.htm
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32,000 SAUDI MOTHERS OF THE ISRAELITES IN 1440 BC
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Amalekites and Edomites are the descendants of Isaac and Abraham
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1200.htm
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Adultery you can't tell who the father of any Israelite or other Arab is
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1250.htm
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The tribe of Simeon out of the womb of a Canaanite mother
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1300.htm
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Tribal membership, liars and loop holes
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1350.htm
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Arabs are the Seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
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What is an Israelite... musical bs
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Where is Arabia and what is an Arab? Why do they need to use musical definitions?
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1500.htm
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Who were the Arabs of the 'Arab Israeli war'
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1550.htm
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Jephthah (mighty Israelite fighter) descendent of Chaldeans / Iraqis
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1600.htm
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Ibzan Judge of Israel who sent his 30 daughters packing and imports 30 Arab spouses
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1650.htm
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Pirathonite, sect of the Amalekites who lived in the city of Pirathon.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1700.htm
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Jabeshgileadites Arab families murdered so the Benjamites could take daughters
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1750.htm
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Shiloh Dancing girls kidnapped for wives
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King David, from a pot luck of Arabs
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AHIMELECH, Hittite priest of the Israelites
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1900.htm
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Zionist nor Zionism is in the scriptures. There is no such thing except a cult of Europeans who make fools out of ignorant Christians.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i1950.htm
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Solomon, Moabite, Hittite to Ammonite
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i2000.htm
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Naamah an Ammonitess Mother n grandmother of Israelite kings
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i2050.htm
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Gilead and the Gileadites, came from a pot luck of Arabs
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i2100.htm
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The pattern of the flight of refugees. Most descendants of the Israelites are probably Muslims who have lost their identity IF the bible is true.
http://members.fortunecity.com/arabisraelites/i2150.htm
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Ashdodites married the Jews and the Jew kids could not speak the Jews language
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Josy Thalman - 10/4/2003

Biblycally speaking God gave the 'Judean"-JEWS who are of Israel proper this Land. - But since Isr. is not gathered yet, false Jews (80% Ashkenazim - whos ancestors converted to the Jewish faith back in 740 AD, called then (Japhetic) Huns, who comprised of seven tribes, the 6th the Khazars now Askenazim - have usurped and pretend to be the inheritors.
But In Ex.12:48-49 God made a concession that "foreigners"who wish to adapt to Jewish law and live within it's borders - should be welcomed.
Again since the whole Isr./Jewish polity ceased IN the land and scattered,---the assumed return of the 'Jews' in 1948 and prior
is NOT yet the prophesied return of the tribes, incl. the true Jews. Hardly anyone knows who the true Jews are but maybe they themselves.
The Palestinian who lived there for centuries now should have a right to share the space with the anyway false/Zionist Jews, but as mankind is, wrongly informed and fanatical at times - and certainly the Palestinian are neither without fault,... it won't
work until the Lord Jesus Christ returns for ALL to see. Josy

Ammar - 4/17/2003

Mr. Beinin, thank you for your comments regarding the current state of McCarthism against academicians who speak from knowledge of history and not for political motives. Good luck.

Freda Saul - 3/6/2003

He isn't. He wants Israel to commit suicide. He hates Israel, and wants it gone.

RustyShackleford - 1/8/2003

Haha yeah exactly plus Beinin seems to miss the fact that Pipes' academic credentials are far superior to his and he lectures at the University of Pennsylvania - hardly a school that hires 'failed" academics.

Dustin Stein - 1/8/2003

A rather interesting article from Beinin on free speech. The university he teaches at just disinvited Daniel Pipes to come and present. Is Beinin scared of being embarrassed in front of his acolytes? Is he simply obstructing free speech? I am not really sure, but I do know that Pipes waives his speaking fee to come to Stanford and he was still rebuked. I wonder who is stifling free speech?

Mike Nargizian - 10/11/2002

A recent study found 85% of Ivy Professors classify themselves as liberal or democrats while 5% classified themselves as conservatives. That doesn't even begin to tabulate the fact that most (Not documented yet) MEast professors are along the lines of Edward Said, Khalidi, Chomsky etc..

On an issue as debatable as this, why are almost all professors along 1 LINE? The fact that a Pipes or Kramer or someone of their ilk has a hard time getting hired let alone getting a Department Chair is RIDICULOUS!! Clarence Thomas stands a better chance of getting Edward Kennedy's Yay vote.

COLLEGES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MULTITHEISM and expose people to a broad range of opinions and viewpoints. THAT THESE LEFTISTS AND THEIR MONOPOLY OF HATE AMERICA, HATE ISRAEL, EVERYTHING IS WESTERN IMPERIALISM, etc.. and ISLAMIC Terrorism is just a fantasy - IS NOW BEING EXPOSED IS LOooooong overdue.

Whatever it takes to break the monopoly I say. They are not going to tomorrow institute an Affirmative Action to even out the Professorship so parents and America should know what they are "brainwashing" into their students for $30,000/yr WITHOUT ANY CHALLENGE OR DEBATE ON CAMPUSE.

Their BS accusations of McCarthyism - when that's exactly what they are practice a smothering Dictatorship on ideology, WILL NOT FLY post 9/11. PEOPLE ARE NOW PAYING ATTENTION.

Much thanks to Daniel Pipes whom they go out of their way to insult and belittle. SO WHO'S SMOTHERING THE DEBATE AGAIN??

Mike Nargizian

Orson Olson - 10/7/2002

Yeah, Lloyd. I'm OUTRAGED. After Iraq...
(I know goes the thinking, but I think Ralph
Peters has the better bet--work on Islam's
periphery first).

--Orson

Mike Nargizian - 10/5/2002

Subject: reaction to Beinin article
Posted By: Murray A. Rubinstein
Date Posted: October 3, 2002, 1:55 PM
As an American jew with close ties to family in israel--family that helped build the state since it was the Palestinian mandate--and as an academician who teaches in a hightly diverse urban East Coast college and attempts to be "objective," I feel torn. I belive in debate and in freedom of speach but also have seen the ugly spectre of anti-semitism at close hand even in "liberal New York. And I do want Israel to survive but not as an imperialistic state that recreates an Ancient Israel at all costs. Israel was a social experiment that has been hijacked by the ultra religious extremists whom Sharon courts. If we need to the devil here is name is Sharon. Ararfat is at best a bungling and inept demon.

That "Inept Demon" is not so inept when it comes to doing what he does best, terrorize and play the pity welfare queen, and don't forget steal billions and manipulate. Arafat with the help of the real DEMONS the Saudis and Iranian Mullahs refused the Camp David and Taba offers. They are the real MENIACHAL DEVILS pulling the strings.

My friend is Israeli and the left of the left!! and he hates Sharon but says until the Arabs accept Israel and the Terrorism from all groups including the PA, Fatah, Al Asqu thugs, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PFLP, HEZBULLA, AL QUEDA are defeated it doesn't matter WHO THE HELL IS THE LEADER OF ISRAEL.

You'd think listening to the leftist media that Sharon's been the leader for years and years. ITS ALSO FACT THAT THE INTIFADA WAS:

1) Not Spontaneous, but set in motion right after Camp David and there is mounting proof even months before that.

2) It didn't start due to Sharon walking on the Mount or did you hear in a Church or in the Mosque whatever story it is today?? Barghouti even said he cleared it with them first and they just used it as the firing off point.

3) Arafat's own people wanted him to take the White House deal in January of 2001 and couldn't believe he turned it down. See Dennis Ross's interviews and statements.

THUS, NOW WE HEAR EVERYTHING IS SHARON'S FAULT AND THAT EITHER ARAFAT'S ONLY A BUNGLING DEMON OR "NOT THAT BAD"

Funny, he was able to pull of the Munich Olympics in 72, the Achille Lauro, Airplane Hijackings........
A "BUNGLING" DEMON huh????????

Mike

Mike Nargizian - 10/5/2002

Subject: RE: Pipes and fascism
Posted By: Zack Morris
Date Posted: October 5, 2002, 4:22 PM
I too support Campus Watch! I can see that fascism is alive and well in America, and I encourage them to keep up the good work! Before too long we will not have any freedoms left. Academia is arguably one of the few places that still has some semblance of freedom of expression and critical thought, though through the fine work of Pipes an others, we will finally put an end to such unnecessary evils. Thanks to their efforts, group thought and ignorance will prevail. Stalin, Mussolini, and Ashcroft applaud their fine work. Operation TIPS will spy on the average American in the street and Campus watch will spy on college professors. This however, is simply not enough; we need to also spy on the American family from the inside. I propose that we begin recruiting kids from summer camps across the country, and they can supply complete intelligence dossiers to Pipes and Ashcroft. We will call them “ Youth for right-wing fascist America.”

First A LOT of Conservatives don't support Ashcroft's program, Cal Thomas, George Will, Joseph Farah to name but a few.

Second, with all due respect the problem at colleges however, is that they are TOTALLY DOMINATED by a far leftist "School of thought" regarding all issues, domestic and foreign policy. Colleges should be rounding not monotheistic!

For example, regarding issues like Abortion, Affirmative Action and a few others I am toward the liberal side. However, I don't demonize the opposite view and there ARE GOOD POINTS to the other side. if you don't think so then you're just pushing an agenda and not thinking.

I was always taught or picked up through the media and college that the Republicans that were just Pro Business and were so because they were all the evil top hats. I was also brainwashed that Jesses Jackson was a Good Guy, in the image of MLK. THAT'S CALLED ONE SIDED BRAINWASHING. MY EYES OPENED UP A LOT ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. Fiscal policy and theories on taxation make sense. You can't just say that higher taxes are good for the country. You can't just say we need universal Health Care. There are complicated issues to deal with and think through. However, if only hear one side how the hell would you know????

YOU CAN SCREAM Fascism till your blue in the face but here is a FACT:
85% OF COLLEGE PROFESSORS at IVY LEAGUES in a recent study stated they considered themselves LEFTISTS and 5% considered themselves Conservatives. If you don't think that creates a climate of One Sides Agenda Brainwashing you're being Closed Minded! With those odds if you don't think you have to tow certain left wing lines to get tenure or get hired or get Department Chairs etc.. YOU'RE NUTS!!

It has to change and post 9/11 the difference is not fascism but the fact that now people in this country are paying attention to the fact they're paying 30,000/yr for their kids to be indoctrinated not educated. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!!

Was it fascism to make a Biased Program called AFFIRMATIVE ACTION?? IS IT FASCISM THAT A PRO LIFE JUDGE CAN NOT GET APPOINTED TO THE BENCH?? I am Pro Choice but its still Fascism any way you cut it. Its not they are Nazis or KKK they have a viewpoint that has rational to it.

The Monopoly Pipes is going against does not being challenged or exposed regardless of his methods. Pipes is a hard line right winger I'll admit. However, he's also brilliant and knowledgeable and has point of view that deserves a voice, as well as Bernard Lewis, Gingrich, Weinberger etc... etc.. Does Pipes have an understanding of the Middle East?? Are his positions on it valid or not?? Can you be sure?? Unless you listen to his perspective you can't make an educated decision or siphen out the valid points you may agree with to form a more rounded overall perspective.

THAT'S WHY THE MONOPOLY HAS TO BE BROKEN. BLACKS NOT BEING ABLE TO VOTE IN JIM CROW SOUTH WAS BULL AND THE FAR LEFT SITUATION AT MOST SCHOOLS IS BULL. If this is the only way to break the Monopoly FOR NOW then so be it.

Mike Nargizian

IF YOU DISAGREE WITHOUT BEING HYPERBOLIC LET ME KNOW.

Zack Morris - 10/5/2002

I too support Campus Watch! I can see that fascism is alive and well in America, and I encourage them to keep up the good work! Before too long we will not have any freedoms left. Academia is arguably one of the few places that still has some semblance of freedom of expression and critical thought, though through the fine work of Pipes an others, we will finally put an end to such unnecessary evils. Thanks to their efforts, group thought and ignorance will prevail. Stalin, Mussolini, and Ashcroft applaud their fine work. Operation TIPS will spy on the average American in the street and Campus watch will spy on college professors. This however, is simply not enough; we need to also spy on the American family from the inside. I propose that we begin recruiting kids from summer camps across the country, and they can supply complete intelligence dossiers to Pipes and Ashcroft. We will call them “ Youth for right-wing fascist America.”

jess lewis - 10/5/2002

God ,Dear God , when will mankind realise the imporntance of Brotherhood . (Bliss & Blessing's )

Mike Nargizian - 10/5/2002

Subject: RE: Free Speech is Not Censorship
Posted By: AlexK
Date Posted: October 5, 2002, 2:10 AM
Mike Nargizian: Your name indicates you have an Armenian background. Are you aware that your heroes Bernard Lewis and Daniel Pipes have said things about the Armenian genocide which Armenian scholars regard as apologism for Turkey? Bernard Lewis was even convicted in French court for the "denial of the Armenian genocide" and fined one franc. Lewis has strenuously denied that the Armenians were the victims of a deliberate extermination campaign by the Turks and has also argued that the Armenians cannot be called innocent victims in the events of 1915. Daniel Pipes has favourably reviewed a book by Justin McCarthy called "Death and Exile", one of whose arguments is that the Armenian genocide was actually a mutual war of extermination between Turks and Armenians with Turks suffering just as much as the Armenians.

You're correct about the name. They're not the only ones who have stated that. Many scholars have stated that they think the circumstances were not what once thought. I'm not sure myself but I doubt Lewis has it in for the Armenians or just likes the Turks.

Mike

AlexK - 10/5/2002

Mike Nargizian: Your name indicates you have an Armenian background. Are you aware that your heroes Bernard Lewis and Daniel Pipes have said things about the Armenian genocide which Armenian scholars regard as apologism for Turkey? Bernard Lewis was even convicted in French court for the "denial of the Armenian genocide" and fined one franc. Lewis has strenuously denied that the Armenians were the victims of a deliberate extermination campaign by the Turks and has also argued that the Armenians cannot be called innocent victims in the events of 1915. Daniel Pipes has favourably reviewed a book by Justin McCarthy called "Death and Exile", one of whose arguments is that the Armenian genocide was actually a mutual war of extermination between Turks and Armenians with Turks suffering just as much as the Armenians.

Mike Nargizian - 10/4/2002

Subject: Free Speech is Not Censorship
Posted By: Hal Goldman
Date Posted: October 4, 2002, 1:03 PM
Criticizing people for their positions is not censorship. It's free speech and a vital part of academic debate. The fact that Mr. Beinin claims that it should not be permitted simply proves the point of Messrs. Kramer and Pipes. Middle eastern studies is populated by intolerant, anti-intellectual bigots who do not believe in open debate. It is they who rely on repression, not Kramer and Pipes. When you publish foolish material or are compromised by your own bigotry, you cannot expect a free pass simply because you are a college professor.

EXACTLY. THERE IS NO OPEN DEBATE ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AT A TIME IT IS MOST SORELY NEEDED.

It is just an Oppressive Monopolistic Suppressive Oligarchy that doesn't want to be questioned in anyway or have any light shone on them, their views, their suppression of open debate or aversion to admitting Conservative Professors into their Private Elitist Monopoly.

POST 9/11 THAT'S TOUGH SHIT.

Was exposing Al Arian in Florida censorship?? Should people know he has direct ties to Terrorist Organizations and speaks out for the death of Israel. I'd say its at least relevant wouldn't you?? Meanwhile, he wasn't even fired. They'd rather hire him than a Bernard Lewis, Pipes, Kramer or Gingrich.

RIDICULOUS!!

Mike

Mike Nargizian - 10/4/2002

Subject: Free Speech is Not Censorship
Posted By: Hal Goldman
Date Posted: October 4, 2002, 1:03 PM
Criticizing people for their positions is not censorship. It's free speech and a vital part of academic debate. The fact that Mr. Beinin claims that it should not be permitted simply proves the point of Messrs. Kramer and Pipes. Middle eastern studies is populated by intolerant, anti-intellectual bigots who do not believe in open debate. It is they who rely on repression, not Kramer and Pipes. When you publish foolish material or are compromised by your own bigotry, you cannot expect a free pass simply because you are a college professor.

EXACTLY. THERE IS NO OPEN DEBATE ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AT A TIME IT IS MOST SORELY NEEDED.

It is just an Oppressive Monopolistic Suppressive Oligarchy that doesn't want to be questioned in anyway or have any light shone on them, their views, their suppression of open debate or aversion to admitting Conservative Professors into their Private Elitist Monopoly.

POST 9/11 THAT'S TOUGH SHIT.

Was exposing Al Arian in Florida censorship?? Should people know he has direct ties to Terrorist Organizations and speaks out for the death of Israel. I'd say its at least relevant wouldn't you?? Meanwhile, he wasn't even fired. They'd rather hire him than a Bernard Lewis, Pipes, Kramer or Gingrich.

RIDICULOUS!!

Mike

Mike Nargizian - 10/4/2002

Subject: RE: reaction to Beinin article
Posted By: Joseph
Date Posted: October 4, 2002, 6:57 PM
Murray points out very eloquently what is happening to us here in this country over the situation in Israel/Palestine. Religious fanatics are in control of both the U.S. Govornment and the Israeli Govornment.

Religious fanatics. Come on you're being a bit of a melodramatic fanatic yourself. Further, 8 years of Clinton and pacifism worked out real well wouldn't you say? Arafat broke EVERY TENET not just some EVERY TENET of Oslo. The religious fanatics or just plain fanatics are more on the PLO/Hamas/Islamic Jihad/Fatah/Hezbullah. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE even the left wing Israelis did 2 years ago.

Bush is a born again Christian. Sharon is a Zionist who is also a thug.

Yeah, we'd be better off with an atheist?? I'm a zionist so is Barak what the hell does that shit mean?? Sharon is also part of a Coalition Democracy with a rabid Left Wing critical press. His inner cabinet is him, Peres and Ben Elezer. Extreme left wing and moderate left wing and Sharon. Now you want to compare that to Fatah and Al Asqua?? THUGS.

This combination is seriously damaging the social justice movement in the U.S. Somehow we must (though I resent having to do so) involve ourselves in stopping the crazed violence there so that we as Americans can get to work on serious problems here in this country.
Crazed Violence.......... You mean like 9/11 in case you weren't there. Or like the 93 WTC or Khobar Towers??
Or the rising Islamo Fascism here and around the world?
Social Justice movement. What the hell is that?? You mean like our completely porous open borders, the only country in the world with such??

I have long been reluctant to be critical of Israel because too often anti-Jewish kooks would start mumbling away about the elders of Zion, Jewish bankers etc. Unfortunately now what I see as well is American Jews who I once stood in solidarity with clamming up and siding with the worst elements of the Israeli people...Netanyahu, Sharon etc.
"There must be some way outa here"

Right so you were supportive of Barak then, a moderate? He supports war in Iraq, he supports most of Sharon's steps, he agrees Arafat was most to blame, he agrees he was suckered, as well as the rest of the predominately left wing Israeli society.
WORST ELEMENTS.... So you must be speaking about most Israelis then I assume.

Joseph - 10/4/2002

Murray points out very eloquently what is happening to us here in this country over the situation in Israel/Palestine. Religious fanatics are in control of both the U.S. Govornment and the Israeli Govornment. Bush is a born again Christian. Sharon is a Zionist who is also a thug. This combination is seriously damaging the social justice movement in the U.S. Somehow we must (though I resent having to do so) involve ourselves in stopping the crazed violence there so that we as Americans can get to work on serious problems here in this country. I have long been reluctant to be critical of Israel because too often anti-Jewish kooks would start mumbling away about the elders of Zion, Jewish bankers etc. Unfortunately now what I see as well is American Jews who I once stood in solidarity with clamming up and siding with the worst elements of the Israeli people...Netanyahu, Sharon etc.

"There must be some way outa here"

Mike Nargizian - 10/4/2002

Subject: RE: So many unanswered questions
Posted By: Sandra
Date Posted: October 3, 2002, 2:55 PM
Do you see the professors targeted by Pipes organizing a website "monitoring" pro-Israel right-wing profs or "experts" and asking students to "report" on them?

Ummmmmm.. There are practically NONE!!!! THAT'S THE FREEKIN POINT@!!! Unless you consider Fouad Ajami, a Lebanese Muslim highly crticial of the Arabic MEast and supportive of Israel? Are you guys going to monitor him?

What is the PURPOSE of a site dedicated to "keeping an eye on" profs who don't line up on Pipes' meter of being "acceptable" teachers of history or some other social science? What is the purpose of maintaining such a list??

The method sucks. But since there ARE NO CONSERVATIVE ALTERNATE VIEWS IN THE PROFESSORSHIP there is no other outlet to report the AGGREGIOUS BIG BROTHER Brainwashing Oppressive Oligarchy at Schools. Post 9/11 people are not going to put with this shit anymore. If there was open debate at campuses with Conservative scholars able to debate professors like Khalidi or Said at campus this site would dissappear!! INSTEAD OF TAKE OFF WHICH IT IS!!

We have seen how people like Pipes and Emerson target individuals and organizations freely with the broad, undefined label of having "terrorist links."

Proving my point. Emerson can not even say anything about professor with direct ties, like Al Arian who Oreilly exposed for his ties on TV and let people decide, or criticize groups linked to the Holy Land Foundation. CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S RACIST CORRECT??? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING??? So you're saying all Arabs are tied to Terrorist Groups that others not tied to it shouldn't be horrified, like Sheik Khabanni WHO IS IRONICALLY IS EXCLUDED FROM ALL CAMPUSES AND "MODERATE" Muslim organizations for his "radical" views, like being critical of American Islam which is dominated by the Wahabists, who he says is not TRUE ISLAM. IS THAT RACIST TOO??? GIVE HIM A CALL. He's only 1 of the most decorated Sheiks in the world!

Pipes and Emerson are constantly on TV. They are the face of "Middle East experts" to a majority of the American public that watches TV, listens to the radio, etc. The profs who dare to have a different view from them are never, ever on TV. They NEVER get called for their opinions on Hardball, etc.

SANDRA YOU ARE INSURING YOU HAVE ---- ** 0 ** ---- CREDIBILITY. THERE ARE SO MANY PLO REPS, MUSLIM ORG REPS AND THE LIKE ON TV ALL THE TIME!! And Pipes and Emerson are not the face, how about Casper Weinberger, Newt Gingrich, Joseph Farah (Lebanese Syrian), Fouad Ajami (Lebanese Muslim Scholar), all supportive of Israel and highly critical of the PLO and Muslim Groups linked to Terror. They're all RACIST??

So fine -- let's exchange. I'll take at least EQUAL presence on TV/radio of Edward Said, Rashid Khalidi, Juan Cole, Joel Benin and you can take EQUAL academic presence of the Pipes and Emersons.

YOU ARE SO IGNORANT ITS SAD. Anyone can see how little rational you possess.
Hussein Ibish, Sara Entantawe, Abdel Rahman, James Zogby etc.. are all over the place.
How about NPR, CBS, NBC, CNN, and ABC, National Geographic WHICH ARE ALL LEFT WING DOMINATED PURVIEWS. NPR IS SO DOMINATED PRO PALESTINIAN THEY'VE DONE 3 MONTH STUDIES THAT DOCUMENT IT WITHOUT REFUTE. HANNITY AND OREILLY ARE BIAS BUT THEY GIVE EQUAL TIME AT LEAST TO BOTH SIDES. NPR CLAIMS UNBIASEDNESS which is a complete joke.

What is amazing is how much people like you and Pipes whine, whine, whine, WHINE about how terribly oppressed you all are because you're all somehow silenced in academia. You never offer any specific details about just how such Zionist profs are "silenced" and marginalized in academia. When was the last time a Zionist prof was fired from his job?

HERE YOU GO PUT DOWN YOUR "Talking Points: Zionism is Evil" Handbook and open your mind.
frontpagemag.com

Exerpt from one article:

Here's an example of what the professors highlighted on the website:

'Dossiers: ALAM, M. Shahid. Shahid Alam is Professor of Economics at Northeastern University, Boston. His current research interests include: corruption, growth, global economic history and imperialism. He has published two books, Governments and Markets in Economic Development Strategies (Praeger: 1989) and Poverty from the Wealth of Nations (Macmillan: 1999).

Here's an excerpt from this rabid, anti-Semite:
"But this has been the particular burden of Zionists as they conceived their plan for a colonial-settler state in Palestine, as they went about executing this plan on the backs of imperialists powers-with wars, massacres and ethnic cleansing-and, later, as they have persisted in their plans to dispossess the Palestinians of the last fragments of their rights and legacy whose Canaanite roots were more ancient than Isaiah, Ezekiel, David and Moses."

Is there any wonder then why anti-Israel, anti-West is all the rage at even our most elite universities? You see, there is no hateful counterpart amongst the Jews in America. No Jewish professors (or others) are excoriating Arabs as "ragheads." And so through repetition of the "Big Lie," with no defense in academia, you have the final and total Manchurian Candidate indoctrination of our students. Some of the universities profiled on the website are, to name a few: UC Berkeley, Stanford, and San Francisco State. The Bay Area seems to have a lion's share of America-haters. How does the San Francisco Chronicle write up this story in today's paper? You guessed it--with a sympathetic portrayal of the beleaguered professors. There are no fewer than quotes from three critics of the website, all from academia, of course.

What Pipes doesn't like is the fact that academia is the ONLY, ONLY place in the entire country where his ideology is actually challenged. Pipes dominates the TV circuit, he's quoted by the country's top newspapers. His point of view is EVERYWHERE, ubiquitous and dominant. Apparently, that is not enough for either him or you. You have to DOMINATE every single sector of the country before you can be happy.

You are such a hyperbolic irrational baby. Pipe's view, Gingrich's view, Weinberger's view, Kissinger's view, Oreilly's view, BERNARD LEWIS'S VIEW, are all VACANT FROM COLLEGE CAMPUSES. IF THEY WERE THERE THERE WOULD BE --- OPEN DEBATE on College Campuses instead of an Oligarchy Monopoly of Brainwashing Monotheism there.
That's not education that's 1 sided brainwashing.
Exactly what an education is supposed to NOT BE.

Mike