HNN Poll: What Does Katrina Tell Us About American Society?

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Jesse Jackson describes the New Orleans convention center, where tens of thousands live in fetid conditions, as"the hull of a slaveship."
Jim Sleeper, lecturer in political science at Yale University:
[The US is being shamed by] the spectacle of a Baghdad on the Mississippi River and our own people being so poor and so destitute and so helpless at a time when we are talking about trying to spread democracy and curb looting in Baghdad.
Marjorie Cohn, a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, and executive vice president of the National Lawyers Guild:
Last September, a Category 5 hurricane battered the small island of Cuba with 160-mile-per-hour winds. More than 1.5 million Cubans were evacuated to higher ground ahead of the storm. Although the hurricane destroyed 20,000 houses, no one died.
Conservative columnist Marie Jon:
Our president is working to take care of the total breakdown of communications and the lawlessness that now seems to reign. We have seen America's breakdown as God has been shoved aside as if he were a monster. Thanks to the ACLU and their ilk, any form of godliness is unacceptable. The very liberal and progressive one-world government envisioned by the ACLU and the United Nation seems also to be embraced by the far left in America. Thus we now see in these dire desperate days the results of their miserable works in New Orleans. Mayhem rapes the United States of her dignity at the hands of lawless thugs.
David Herbert Donald:
It really makes us look very much like Bangladesh or Baghdad. I'm 84 years old. I've been around a long time, but I've never seen anything like this. [Donald added that compared with Sherman's march through the South Katrina was worse.]
Ralph Luker:
How do you account for the different responses to 9/11 and 8/29? One was an alien attack and the other a"natural disaster." There were forewarnings of both for years. In the former, local, state, and national leadership were of the same party. In New Orleans and Louisiana, at least, national leadership met state and local leadership of the opposition party. There's responsibility to be shared by both. In 9/11, no race or class was spared. In 8/29, young and old, poor and sick people of color have been left in deteriorating conditions for days, while self-righteous white jerks clucked over their behavior under the circumstances. In 8/29, we've lost more than two office towers. We may have lost a whole city. That's gross negligence and incompetence. Let the impeachment proceedings begin.
President Bush:
We got a lot of rebuilding to do. First we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation, and then we're going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is -- and it's hard for some to see it now -- that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house - he's lost his entire house - there's going to be a fantastic house -- and I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch [Laughter]"

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omar ibrahim baker - 10/19/2007

As a non American outsider that is as constructive as I can be: point out the huge gap between potential and achievement.
Could Katerina launch a new era in American politics?
Best of luck!

omar ibrahim baker - 10/19/2007

I agree 100% with that but wish to add the containment of the disproportinate influence of internal bodies with other than American interests at heart ,such as AIPAC, on American politics.
Best of luck.

omar ibrahim baker - 10/19/2007

Knowing America from the inside,having lived there for some time and visited many times, the contrast between American Potential and American Reality, never seize to amaze me.
With the greatest material, managerial and human resources ever assembled in one nation its potential to do good to its citizens , let us forget about the rest of the world for now, its achievement is sub-substandard.
Witness:
-Social Security
-Public Health Services
-Public Education
and as Crucial in human terms :
-The state of its prisons.
All much ,much below their counter parts in much less affluent nations.

Wherein lies the inability, or the resistance, to realizing the American potential?
My guess is:
-A political system dominated by big money...and money controlled mass media
-A general public intimidated and domisticated by the ever present threat to "loose his job".
-A factional concentration of power used mercileesly to get its way and damn the public:AMA, American Rifle Association , Philip Morris et all in the cigarette league etc etc
The response to Katerina is the inevitable out come of such a political system!
America can do much better!

Peter K. Clarke - 10/9/2007

Sell all stocks of companies which donated to the Republican Party last year. Stop buying Chinese-made products (good luck). And pray that God will punish those hypocrites who invoke his name to cover up their sins. If you wait for America to come to its senses on its own you may have a long wait ahead.

Peter K. Clarke - 10/9/2007

You are right, but need to cease being so seized about it.

Dalek S Wu - 9/13/2007

Obssessing with what one particular individual (in this case the President) should have/did not do about Katrina obscures long-standing pathologies that have been around long before this individual was even born.

I am specifically talking about the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, which puts enormous restraints on what the US military (save for the National and State Guards when they are acting in their own states) can do on US soil.

Americans love their freedoms. Many don't like their military, so much so that they willingly go along with whatever restrictions someone in Congress is willing to slap on them. Therefore, they should not be surprised when, in the case of disaster, their military cannot help them to the fullest of its capabilities.

Nor is this uniquely an American problem. In Britain, Tony Blair disbanded the Home Service Battalions of the Royal Irish Regiment, who were simply the old Ulster Defence Regiment, a unit with over three decades of institutional urban counterinsurgency expertise earned in blood on British soil and within British legal limitations. Virtually no one on the mainland objected to this. Now, they had 7/7 and the attentats of the summer of 2007, and the precarious situation described in Melanie Phillips' "Londonistan." The RIR HSB's/UDR would have been quite handy in dealing with this new threat on the Mainland.

Related to my point about how obssessing with one individual obscures more important, long-term pathologies is the tiresome "Chicken-or-the-egg" debate on whether Clinton or the current President is more responsible for 9/11. While it is certain that neither of these two gentlemen have the wisdom and the common sense of Oliver Cromwell, the road to 9/11 began in the 1970's--i.e. before either one of them was a person of consequence--when the late and unlamented Senator Frank Church and Jimmy Carter effectively neutetred the CIA and FBI, a castration that has not been substantially reversed by either Clinton or Bush.

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God also judges a nation as a whole. He sees both the good and evil deeds. However he takes no action. There was a time when He did. He has a reason and a plan. Look in the book of Genesis regarding the flood.
God created man and woman with free will. We make our own choices. We can be the children of God or the children of man. Unfortunately our first earthly parents disobeyed a very wise, knowing, and loving God. They brought an end to the perfect life that our loving creator, God, intended for them. Their action ALONE set into place the consciences of disobedience. Their first born ended up being a reflection of their own disobedient selves. Cain killed his only brother Abel.
When man does not follow the laws of love, they end up doing terrible things. Our jails and prisons tell the sad truth about where society has gone astray.

Without making this article too lengthy, I will cut to the chase. God had a backup plan. This was a plan to reconcile a fallen people. However, since sin had already marred perfection, more sin would continue to follow. God did some profound cursing for the good of all man kind. The earth and it's inhabitants could not be left in it's sad disarray of sin to exist forever. That was part of God's redemptive plan. God cursed the earth that originally was intended to last for all eternity. Man also was cursed. Why? We also were made to last for all eternity. Now God looked at a forever wicked, disobedient people and had to take quick action.

Prov 15:26. "Their thoughts were continually wicked and evil day and night." God cursed His fallen creation to implement His perfect plan of salvation and recreation. That perfect plan was embodied in God's only begotten Son named Jesus Christ. He alone would redeem God's fallen people. He is doing that act of redemption every single day.

God is most certainly not dead. He died once for the world's sin so that "we may have life and have it more abundantly." God arose from the dead so we can physically as well as spiritually come alive if we accept His free plan of salvation. We have a Savior all in the name of Jesus Christ. Love and obedience is still the goal in the year 2005. ( 1 John 1:9), "If we sin we have an advocate with the Father." His plan set forth is then more than perfect. Simply take hold of it. (Matthew 24:30, 31 )

Katrina is a hurricane that is the result of a problem that happened a long time ago. Please understand that we are living on a planet that is no longer perfect. We no longer can claim to stand on solid ground. ( Romans 8:22) "The whole world groans and moans for His return."

God is still in control of His perfect plan of redemption. God is with the inhabitants of this earth in a very personal, individual way. He stands by His people in the midst of all types of personal and real storms. ( Philippians 4:7 ) "God gives peace that passes all understanding."

Prayer is answered in a way that brings glory to His plan of redemption. If we did not feel the sting of life's decline caused by original sin, we would forevermore be more than content to live in this mess we call earth. God is waiting to create a new heaven and a new earth. Are you ready?

We can't fix many things about us. We certainly see by now, as we helplessly watch, all kinds of destruction. We can only try to manage problems personally as well as globally. We can do this in love for our fellow man. We can do this in giving generously of our talents and our money to help relieve the suffering of these days. We can also pray. (James. 5:17) "Prayer avails much." America is rising to that occasion.

These storms that we have seen is proven truth of a fallen planet that spins out of man's control. Take solace and feel safe in knowing that a loving and companionate God is going to put an end to this dysfunctional world that no longer is perfect as once created. Disobedience to God's perfect plan brought with it sickness of body, anger, jealousy, wars, death, strife, and contentions of all kinds.

God is preparing a better place. Sin will no longer be able to raise it's ugly and destructive head ever again. There will be peace and harmony through out all eternity. Katrina is a reminder. We really need to think about setting that perfect plan of redemption into action in our own lives. He gave his own life to save us all.

"I come and I bring my reward with me." The LORD Jesus Christ is both our Reward and our Rewarder. "And, behold, I come quickly; and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work shall be" ( Revelation 22:12 )
Those who know and love God and believe in His word also know that the storms of this life one day will grow strangely dim in the light of His glory and grace..

(Rom. 8:38,39) "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the LOVE OF GOD that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Smile and keep the faith. We understand and we know the rest of the story. View Video | Read Script

David Fallon - 9/19/2005

Yes, excellent points regarding W & god. Does the current crisis mean US now has a recipe for a better president at next election? Someone capable of organising a relief effort, or a war on disadvantage? Saw Oprah special on Katrina and she seemed better organised than the White House crew. Sad lame duck days ahead, I fear.

Marie - 9/14/2005

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Follow the trail of corruption and lack of care found in New Orleans! If I were black and poor I'd be standing with a lawyer shaking both of my fists up in the air ready to take two incompetent people to court for putting me and my loved ones in danger. Both the governor and the mayor seemingly did nothing for their constituents other than look the other way as they brazenly point fingers at others!

Below was published by Newsmax.com
Gov. Kathleen Blanco's Bureaucrats Blocked Food and Water Gov. Kathleen Blanco's Bureaucrats Blocked Food and Water
The Red Cross was reportedly ready to deliver food, water and other supplies to flood-ravaged refugees who were sweltering inside New Orleans' Superdome last week - but the relief was blocked by bureaucrats who worked for Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco.

Fox News Channel's Major Garrett reported Wednesday that the Red Cross had "trucks with water, food, hygiene equipment, all sorts of things ready to go ... to the Superdome and Convention Center."

But the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, Garrett said, "told them they could not go."

"The Red Cross tells me that Louisiana's Department of Homeland Security said, 'Look, we do not want to create a magnet for more people to come to the Superdome or Convention Center, we want to get them out,'" he explained.

"So at the same time local officials were screaming where is the food, where is the water, the Red Cross was standing by ready [and] the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security said you can't go."

Go To Bob Park's open Rant and listen to the chain of events.

It's Bush's Fault!

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Who is just as quilty concerning the deaths of hundreds of black poor? What difference can you see in willful neglect by a governor and a mayor and the owners of a rest home that allowed 40 people left to die by the flood waters as they were left to die? In my eyes I see no difference

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Peter K. Clarke - 9/14/2005

Leave God to the religious if you prefer. But, when it comes to "Americans sorting themselves" out (your original point above) there is no room for renouncing help from a multitude of sources. When all else fails (e.g. common decency, common sense, basic honesty, minimal intelligence and fundamental self-responsibility) on a wide scale, prayer is better than pure wishful hope. Already, in the meantime, whether through a divine miracle or otherwise, W has discovered a vestige of a conscience (admitting responsibility for the failures re Katrina in the press conference). Whether God actually exists and what his or her role in our lives is all about, can be debated, but at least we now know that W realizes that he is not God.

Marie Jon' - 9/13/2005

Exploiting Hurricane Katrina and Race"
By Marie Jon'

At a time when the need to show human kindness is greatest Hurricane Katrina
has apparently given an opportunity to those who want to exploit race as a
political tactic. Frankly, many Americans are fed up with race-baiting, not
only from dangerously ambitious politicians, but from organizations and
individuals that should be respectable, such as the NAACP, the DNC, and its
leader, Howard Dean.

Dean, along with Ted Kennedy, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Senator
Barbara Boxer, Congresswoman Maxine Waters and the usual slate of
hate-mongers within the Democratic Party have become nothing but a constant
thorn in America's flesh. Their latest round of venom should convince
America that they have been tolerated for far too long.

The phony cry of "racism" in the wake of the Hurricane Katrina disaster
comes from scoundrels who have a vested interest in perpetuating a bloc vote
from the black Americans whom they shamelessly deceive. Hurricanes do not
discriminate on the basis of race, color, creed or national origin. The
scoundrels and their manipulative tactics need to be exposed for what they
are.

In a time of unfathomable human suffering and genuine need, racism has
become a political battle cry used to rally liberalism’s “faithful troops”
and to deflect attention from unpleasant truths. Too often, the racism
charge has been made inappropriately, insulting Middle America and its
millions of color-blind peoples. It is time for all good people in America
to shun self-serving race-baiters, and turn to the job of helping fellow
Americans in need.

New Orleans is a free American city, not a concentration camp or a
reservation. True, it is predominantly populated by blacks. Its civil
authorities and police and fire departments are predominantly black. And
Mayor Ray Nagin is black. But no person of any race or social class was ever
forced to reside there.

The baseless claim that “racism” contributed to the aftermath of Hurricane
Katrina is a cruel hoax. Mayor Nagin proved himself to be inept in delaying
an order for mandatory evacuation of the city, leaving hundreds of busses
unused instead of taking people with no other means of transportation to
safety. But ineptitude, not racism, is the explanation.

Governor Kathleen Blanco is white, but she owes her election to the blacks
of New Orleans and she surely did not want them dead or dispersed. She
played hideous political games by refusing President Bush's offer to have
the federal government take control because she did not want to look weak.
But it was not because she is a racist.

And, although President Bush has not benefited greatly from the black vote,
he is not a racist either. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, a black
woman who lived in Alabama during the time of segregation and publicly
instituted bigotry, attested to that.
Her response to politically motivated charges that the government's response
to the hurricane crisis showed racial insensitivity was sound and sincere:
"How can that be the case? Americans don't want to see Americans suffer.
Nobody, especially the president, would have left people unattended on the
basis of race."

Some who claim to represent the black people of America are self anointed
and self-centered. We all know who they are. We all know the names of these
so-called leaders who regularly receive media attention. Reverends Jesse
Jackson and Al Sharpton continue to present themselves as relevant black
leaders, but they have their own personal agendas and do not speak for all
black Americans.

The Democrats have a big problem. Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin are
Democrats who failed miserably, but not because they are racists. Blacks
especially need to know that, and Democrats, fearful that betrayed blacks
will retaliate at the polls, are trying desperately to deflect attention
from the ugly truth, by shifting the blame to racism and the federal
government.

Those who want to remain fixated on skin-color must contend with the fact
that it was a white person who kept the Red Cross out of New Orleans. But
it was a white woman, Governor Blanco, not the white President or the black
Mayor. Her action was nothing short of stunning, but it was born of
stupidity, not racism.

The wagons are circling as the old media portray the two incompetent
Democrats as victims or even some “heroes” instead of public servants who
failed the people. Yet most Americans of all colors know (or will know) what
and who they really are! .

The legal authority for local government having priority except in case of
insurgency is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. Federal troops cannot become
involved until the local authorities invite them. First responders are
always local and state local government. That is how America's federal
system of government is set up

In the case of Louisiana the situation was made even more complicated
because Governor Blanco delayed calling up the national guard and then kept
it under state authority, refusing the feds control of the guard and, in the
process, hindering coordination with federal troops. The feds could have
nationalized the guard but that --while legal--would be badly received.

The President could have invoked the Insurgency Act, and taken control from
a female Democrat, but that would have been a gross abuse of power as well
as unconstitutional. It was up to Governor Blanco to recognize the extent of
the impending catastrophe, the limitations of state and local government,
and the abilities of the federal government, including federal troops.
Clearly, she was not up to the task. But not because she's a racist.

Since Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin were supposed to be the first
responders, it was their duty to handle all the needs of their constituents
or cede control to the federal government. It seems that there was neither
a safety net nor a workable plan to transport the sick and poor out of
harm's way. And it was the responsibility of the mayor and governor to know
that.

No phone calls were made by Governor Blanco to the Louisiana National Guard
in order to have boots on the ground so FEMA and other agencies could safely
enter New Orleans. The anarchy and mayhem that New Orleans suffered was not
an anticipated factor in any disaster plan for the city. Tragically, all
will now see what a lack of determined leadership can yield: the real
possibility of thousands dead, and a lingering misery that will endure for
months, if not years.

For generations—and even under Democrat presidents (Kennedy, Johnson,
Carter, Clinton) --not a single thing was done to upgrade the City of New
Orleans' levee infrastructure in order for it to handle a category 4 or 5
storm. Clearly, such improvements were needed to keep the "Big Easy" from
becoming the death trap it became during and after Hurricane Katrina.

The Levee Board spent millions upon millions of dollars on casinos, marinas
and other unnecessary items. Many millions of dollars also were invested
with their personal friends. Yet, for all these millions of dollars, the
levees that broke were never properly taken care of. Hmm...

Perhaps if the guilty parties and their political allies in the Democrat
party shout “racism” loudly enough, people won’t notice their criminal
negligence and complicity in the disaster.

David Fallon - 9/13/2005

Problems with introducing god into the debate include:1. Was Katrina an act of god ? If so what does god mean by allowing such action? 2. Which god? Is Katrina god's revenge for Iraq war? God's revenge on Mardi Gras? If god was on Bush's side, is god now a Democrat? You can't out- think god, but humans can act to minimize god's wrath.

Dick Walker - 9/12/2005

One thing about Honest Abe was that he fired incompetents and replaced them with good men.

You Bushites will never have a good explanation of why such a rank hack as Mike Brown was put in charge of something as important as FEMA.

Now go live with it.

Mike - 9/12/2005

Fortunately, the Louisiani authorities who are responsible for avoidable and premature deaths are not responsible for nearly as many as they predicted when most of the major media were joining the Bush-bashers in blaming President Bush, a victim of Hurricane Katrina thanks to them.

Of course, they hyped. Just as they have been trying desperately to shift the blame.

It takes time for the truth to catch up to the lies, and some never learn. Which is why Abraham Lincoln, whom partisan Democrats villified during the Civil War with the same reckless abandon that their contemporary successors have villified President Bush during the War on Terror. Didn't you know that Old Abe caused the Civil War, didn't win it faster, etc.?

Thanks to Jeff Johnson of Cybercast News Service, some of the truth that Louisiana officials want to keep buried with the bodies of the victims of their incompetence and corruption is available on the Internet:

Louisiana Officials Could Lose the Katrina Blame Game
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
September 07, 2005

(CNSNews.com) - The Bush administration is being widely criticized for the emergency response to Hurricane Katrina and the allegedly inadequate protection for "the big one" that residents had long feared would hit New Orleans. But research into more than ten years of reporting on hurricane and flood damage mitigation efforts in and around New Orleans indicates that local and state officials did not use federal money that was available for levee improvements or coastal reinforcement and often did not secure local matching funds that would have generated even more federal funding.

In December of 1995, the Orleans Levee Board, the local government entity that oversees the levees and floodgates designed to protect New Orleans and the surrounding areas from rising waters, bragged in a supplement to the Times-Picayune newspaper about federal money received to protect the region from hurricanes.

"In the past four years, the Orleans Levee Board has built up its arsenal. The additional defenses are so critical that Levee Commissioners marched into Congress and brought back almost $60 million to help pay for protection," the pamphlet declared. "The most ambitious flood-fighting plan in generations was drafted. An unprecedented $140 million building campaign launched 41 projects."

The levee board promised Times-Picayune readers that the "few manageable gaps" in the walls protecting the city from Mother Nature's waters "will be sealed within four years (1999) completing our circle of protection."

But less than a year later, that same levee board was denied the authority to refinance its debts. Legislative Auditor Dan Kyle "repeatedly faulted the Levee Board for the way it awards contracts, spends money and ignores public bid laws," according to the Times-Picayune. The newspaper quoted Kyle as saying that the board was near bankruptcy and should not be allowed to refinance any bonds, or issue new ones, until it submitted an acceptable plan to achieve solvency.

Blocked from financing the local portion of the flood fighting efforts, the levee board was unable to spend the federal matching funds that had been designated for the project.

By 1998, Louisiana's state government had a $2 billion construction budget, but less than one tenth of one percent of that -- $1.98 million -- was dedicated to levee improvements in the New Orleans area. State appropriators were able to find $22 million that year to renovate a new home for the Louisiana Supreme Court and $35 million for one phase of an expansion to the New Orleans convention center.

The following year, the state legislature did appropriate $49.5 million for levee improvements, but the proposed spending had to be allocated by the State Bond Commission before the projects could receive financing. The commission placed the levee improvements in the "Priority 5" category, among the projects least likely to receive full or immediate funding.

The Orleans Levee Board was also forced to defer $3.7 million in capital improvement projects in its 2001 budget after residents of the area rejected a proposed tax increase to fund its expanding operations. Long term deferments to nearly 60 projects, based on the revenue shortfall, totaled $47 million worth of work, including projects to shore up the floodwalls.

No new state money had been allocated to the area's hurricane protection projects as of October of 2002, leaving the available 65 percent federal matching funds for such construction untouched.

"The problem is money is real tight in Baton Rouge right now," state Sen. Francis Heitmeier (D-Algiers) told the Times-Picayune. "We have to do with what we can get."

Louisiana Commissioner of Administration Mark Drennen told local officials that, if they reduced their requests for state funding in other, less critical areas, they would have a better chance of getting the requested funds for levee improvements. The newspaper reported that in 2000 and 2001, "the Bond Commission has approved or pledged millions of dollars for projects in Jefferson Parish, including construction of the Tournament Players Club golf course near Westwego, the relocation of Hickory Avenue in Jefferson (Parish) and historic district development in Westwego."

There is no record of such discretionary funding requests being reduced or withdrawn, but in October of 2003, nearby St. Charles Parish did receive a federal grant for $475,000 to build bike paths on top of its levees.

Earlier this year, the levee board did complete a $2.5 million restoration project. After months of delays, officials rolled away fencing to reveal the restored 1962 Mardi Gras fountain in a four-acre park featuring a new 600-foot plaza between famous Lakeshore Drive and the sea wall.

Financing for the renovation came from a property tax passed by New Orleans voters in 1983. The tax, which generates more than $6 million each year for the levee board, is dedicated to capital projects. Levee board officials defended more than $600,000 in cost overruns for the Mardi Gras fountain project, according to the Times-Picayune, "citing their responsibility to maintain the vast green space they have jurisdiction over along the lakefront."

Democrats blame Bush administration

Congressional Democrats have been quick to blame the White House for poor preparation and then a weak response related to Hurricane Katrina. U.S. Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), ranking Democrat on the House Government Reform Committee, joined two of his colleagues from the Transportation and Infrastructure and Homeland Security committees Tuesday in a letter requesting hearings into what the trio called a "woefully inadequate" federal response.

"Hurricane Katrina was an unstoppable force of nature," Waxman wrote along with Reps. James Oberstar (D-Minn.) and Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.). "But it is plain that the federal government could have done more, sooner, to respond to the immediate survival needs of the residents of Louisiana and Mississippi.

"In fact, different choices for funding and planning to protect New Orleans may even have mitigated the flooding of the city," the Democrats added.

But Rep. Tom Davis (R-Va.) suggested that Waxman "overlooks many other questions that need to be asked, and prematurely faults the federal government for all governmental shortcomings; in fact, local and state government failures are not mentioned at all in [Waxman's] letter."

Davis wrote that Waxman's questions about issues such as the lack of federal plans for evacuating residents without access to vehicles and the alleged failure of the Department of Homeland Security to ensure basic communications capacity for first responders might "prematurely paint the picture that these are solely, or even primarily, federal government responsibilities.

"This is not the time to attack or defend government entities for political purposes. Rather, this is a time to do the oversight we're charged with doing," Davis continued. "Our Committee will aggressively investigate what went wrong and what went right. We'll do it by the book, and let the chips fall where they may."

The House Government Reform Committee will begin hearings on federal disaster preparations and the response to Hurricane Katrina the week of Sept. 12. The House Energy and Commerce Committee is schedule to hold hearings on the economic recovery from Katrina beginning Wednesday morning.

It's impossible to fairly investigate the federal preparations and response without investigationing the preparations of the City of New Orleans and the State of Louisiana.

So do a thorough job.

Especially for the sake of Americans like emailer Glenda of Boca Raton, Florida who live in the hurricane zone and deserve not to be left alone:

"I live in Boca Raton, Florida and South Florida is constantly being threatened by storms, so its citizens prepare. We make sure that we have lots of water, food, gas in our autos, freezers turned low, clothes all washed, shutters in place and every article that can be tossed around outside secured. We check our batteries and make sure our battery operated TV's work, as well as radios. In other words, we prepare for the worst and hope for the better. We go through this constantly, even though the storms skirt our shores, we still prepare each time they get close. We watch shows which depict some of the worst storms to hit our shores and learn from those. We are told repeatedly by our weather forecasters all day long throughout the storm, what the category of the storm is and explained how bad each category can get, as far as destruction. A category 4-5 can mean totally destruction, as with Hurricane Andrew, there were numerous tornadoes that did the damage moreso than the hurricane's wind and rain. By the way, Hurricane Andrew was projected to make a direct hit near Boca Raton, but at the last moment it turned. We have a great Governor, Jeb Bush, and we trust that we will not turn his back on us, as he has always been there before, during and after the storm. I find fault directly with Governor Blanco in her inept abilities to lead. I have seen very few liberal TV stations lingering on her inabilities, however, there have been many TV stations pointing to President Bush. Governor Blanco should be removed from office, along with the Mayor, as they only made matters worse by holding on to the controls, which caused pain and suffering with its citizens. I am tired of hearing black leaders start the black/white racist wars again. Why doesn't anyone ask Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton where their buses were to evacuate these people out of town. They saw the same news that we all saw, so why did they continue to watch and do nothing. Perhaps they could have broken through the Mayor's and Governor's guards to get water and food to the people of New Orleans. I see the people of Mississippi and Alabama picking up rubble and trying to regain their lives without constant complaints about our government not being there. I also find fault with the citizens of New Orleans who stood around waiting at the Superdrome, etc. for someone to help them. I would have started walking out of the town and tried to help myself. This was a political play on the Governor to have all the black people shown on TV suffering. Did you notice that where there were Fox News crews, there were no buses coming with food and water, so the cameras keep rolling showing the pain and suffering. This was all political created by the Democrats to make President Bush look bad."

Old Abe persevered despite his political enemies, and America is the better for it.

W. needs to continue to do the same, while his partisan enemies rig the blame game.

The Pesident must not educed into appointing an activist justice to the United States Supreme Court in order to placate his political opposition.

Only Americans who will faithfully support the Constitution and refuse to legislate from the bench are fit for that crucial position.

david paul koon - 9/11/2005

we have withstood much higher tax rates when needed, see WWII. We have also withstood the robber barons when they had control before. My fear is the combination of internationationalization of our corporate socialism (there is nothing free-enterprise about our system)combined with the coming to power of the radical xian right may signal the begining of the end of the republic.

Arnold Shcherban - 9/11/2005

The problem is not who owned the levees, in general, and who owned the
New Orleans' levees, in particular, but who ownes the major socio-economic and political power means
and distribution of national wealth.
The answer is well-known and beyond the dispute: the same category of folks who left regions of the disaster
first - the rich and affluent.

Arnold Shcherban - 9/11/2005

Actually, class division is the most
destructive force in this country, not the race.
The rich black folks are no less protected from the all kinds of disasters, than rich white folks, and not only because of their material means and capabilities, but because
the defense of the rights and lives of the Rich is the first and foremost priority for the authorities on all levels of goverment: local, state, and federal. That's the very essense of the American socio-economic and poltical structure.

Arnold Shcherban - 9/11/2005

Well put, Peter!

Arnold Shcherban - 9/11/2005

I fully share your pessimism, but
no major social change never has come
without tremendously hard struggle, sacrifice and failures. What even a failure does in such cases is to invoke public awareness and understanding of the cause of the core problems, and disposition of major forces in conflict, which eventually always brings masses in motion, one way or another, and that's the only way to fight oligarchical power that, in general, chokes this country's resourses.
It might not happen tommorrow, but
if the large masses of people stay socially and politically active (and they are not now) the changes will
happen sooner or later.

David Fallon - 9/11/2005

The fabric of American society is paper-thin. Decades of McDonaldisation of institutions and social structures left the Great Society flat-footed when faced with a bit of wind and water. Your president failed you yet again. Billions of dollars wasted in Iraq that would have ensured social cohesion and appropriate response if spent at home. The American Century is fading fast. China and India won't wait for Americans to sort themselves out. I fear a world were China calls the shots. Get your act together. Impeach Bush, put a competent leader in the White House. Remember, two days after Katrina, Japan faced a severe typhoon. Minimum fuss, maximum response.

Peter K. Clarke - 9/10/2005

"Why is that so hard to say?"

1. Pontificaters on this website are selected (a) for their ability to provoke (b) for their general writing skills and (c) once in a while, because of their historical appitude and relevancy. Very much in that order of priority.

2. I don't know beans about "Marie Jon" and see no reason do further research just because her name has joined the pantheon of kooks trotted out by HNN. In general, however, self-styled "conservative" leaders who are mostly nowadays anything but conservative, don't give a damn about anything except "winning" the current match, whatever it is. Theirs is a juvenile rah rah high school football mentality which makes America increasingly a laughing stock around the world. These clowns do not deserve a response to their antics.

Admitting errors is central to Christianity but these are fake "Christians" who couldn't tell Jesus from the con artists on TV who their dupees watch 6 hours a day. Self-criticism is certainly not something one does while performing as a high school cheerleader, and if that is one's view of American democracy as well, then never admit a mistake there either, no matter how stupidly you have to lie and cover up to try to spin away your blunders. These charlatans would be confined already to the dust bin of history were it not that their opponents, the so-called "progressives", who are in reality mainly a bunch of spineless wimps, rant and rave and tilt their windmill lances against an imagined "Right Wing", that maybe sort of existed 40 years ago, and then choke on their cowardice whenever it comes to actually taking serious action to protect the country against incompetent hypocrites like the Bushies.

John Wilson - 9/10/2005

Why was one columnist labelled a "conservative columnist"? Was that her title, or was that given to her posting?

Phil A. Lutz - 9/9/2005

We expect the Federal government to take care of us from womb to tomb.

And the National Guard is a National Guard, not a State Guard.

Whitney Merchant - 9/9/2005

Really, you liked what she had to say? What exactly does the ACLU have to do with a hurricane and flood and the delayed response to it? If you can make a direct connection, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Have you heard Mr. Brown, the head of FEMA, insisting on national television that he just found out about the situation at the convention center only this week when the news was reporting the lack of water and food for several days? Doesn't the fact that he's lying concern or bother you? How can you support that. A lot of people died there and it had absolutely nothing to do with thugs and looters.

Also, regarding the idea of this as a punishment for American's lack of godliness. The population that suffered the greatest loss of life, property and livelihood is the poor southern black community. If there was ever a God-loving, church-going community, that is it! Most people who are now refugees were regular christian church attendees. If God really wanted to punish this country for its lack of devotion, why not target the upper middle class areas of the North and West? Her reasoning is completely devoid of logic and facts.

What is you resistance to finding fault with anything a conservative does? I voted for Clinton, but was outraged by his behavior with Monica. But that transgression didn't cause the deaths of others. The slow response by FEMA and ultimately by Bush (that's why he's also called Commander in Chief) did cost lives. And you know what, maybe we'll find out they did act correctly, but since people did die, and supplies were turned away while people were dying of dehydration, don't we owe it to all of us citizens to really investigate mistakes made on ALL levels of government?

- 9/9/2005

Well, I was really, really suprised by Ms. Jon's analysis. First she blames the victims of the hurricane, which seems inappropriate. What's the difference between a thug and a poor person looking for food? There is one, but when you aren't on the ground there, isn't in hard to tell sometimes?
But, most confusing to me was Ms. Jon's sudden, ACLU rant. Can you actually, seriously blame the "ACLU and their ilk" for the tragic loss of life on the Gulf Coast? What do they have to do with it? How can the ACLU be responsible, while organizations like FEMA who's job it is to respond to such crises, go unmentioned? Has she not seen the interviews with Mr. Brown, the head of FEMA, who claimed on national television multiple times that he didn't even know about the situation at the convention center when every news station on earth was reporting the lack of water and food, and subsequent deaths due to dehydration? Is he not also somehow responsible for people not getting enough water to survive? Maybe he's not, but why aren't conservatives even willing to consider the possibility that members of this federal government made grevious errors that cost lives? While the looting and lawless violence is no doubt frustrating and maddening, I think the damage done by so-called hoodlums is a drop in the bucket compared with how many people have died due to 1. not being able to evacuate due to lack of finances and transportation and 2. lack of adequate water, food and sanitary living conditions. So many of these deaths could have been prevented with first, the foresight to provide means of evacuation for those too poor to evacuate themselves and second, an efficient relief effort. I think blame or at least examination begins first with those whose job it was to do those things. I don't think the ACLU had the power to do either of these, whereas FEMA did.
And can Ms. Jon please, please name a single "miserable work" that the "United Nation one-world government" has done in New Orleans. That is such an off-the-wall assertation she loses alot of credibility to me as someone really using critical thinking skills.

Secondly, Ms. Jon seems to see this tragedy as some sort of justified effect of "America's breakdown as God has been shoved aside." Wow, ultimate proof that this woman really doesn't understand this situation. The population who endured the largest loss of life, property and livelihood was the community of POOR SOUTHERN BLACKS. Uh, who goes to church more often than poor, southern blacks? These are a god-lovin folk, far more so your white, upper middle class, urban dweller in the North or West. I realize that's a generalization, but it is rooted in fact.

It's a shame that conservatives have become so defensive to protect the small group of people they chose to put in power, that they cannot admit a single failing of that administration. Facts are routinely shoved aside and only the shreds of a story that don't involve missteps by other conservatives are taken for truth. Everyone makes mistakes, why not cop to the obvious ones? This was a tragedy. This administration handled it badly on several levels. Also looters contributed to the fear, panic and chaos. Yes, so many people made the situation worse, including officials of the federal government. Why is that so hard to say?

Peter Clarke - 9/8/2005

Mr. T,

Don't follow your Dean denunciation, maybe you could find a link to what you are talking about.

Meanwhile, your myopia problem seems to have returned. Or maybe its a memory problem. Have you forgotten that there is a NATIONAL guard, a FEDERAL Emergency Management Agency, and a Congress and PRESIDENT of ALL the United States, in addition to state and local agencies ?

Two years from now when, for a likely hypothetical example, Mr. Bush claims the "miraculous recovery" of Lousiana and Mississippi as HIS historical legacy, will it then be the turn of state and local governments to suddenly fall into a black hole ?

You seem to flip back and forth between careful objective thinking and a default logic that amounts to "Republicans always good, Democrats always bad".

May I suggest a more consistent alternative:

When in doubt, assume that ANY politician regardless of party is an unreliable corruptible scoundrel until proven otherwise.

Frederick Thomas - 9/8/2005

Katrina shows that American society posesses criminally incompetent state and local politicians, who are deadly, and that this problem is getting worse with the years.

The much stronger Camille in 1969 clobbered New Orleans, but no one was there-they were forcibly evacuated.

Katrina also shows that the likes of Howard Dean will go to any length - any length - to reverse his party's flagging electoral fortunes. Sadly, the same is true of most of the other democratic "leaders." This is the end of a once great party.

Arnold Shcherban - 9/8/2005

This criticism is fully justified and
timeless but it's not constructive.
This country needs the cardinal answers/actions, not just questions.
So let's start with making the officials at state and federal level
responsible for the recent criminal negligence and inapptitude, which eventually and hopefully will lead to the president's impeachment procedures for high treason: betraying the common Americans in playing millionares' hand and
crooked Iraq invasion.

Sudha Shenoy - 9/8/2005

1. Who relied excessively on over-built levees? Altho' warned for several decades that other measures were essential?

2. So higher taxes & more spending _won't_ be gobbled up by the wicked middle classes? Why? When everypast such increase has gone to benefit only them?

Sudha Shenoy - 9/8/2005

1. For several decades it's been known that levees -- by themselves -- add to the problem. Civil engineers -- not the Army -- have known that other, complementary measures were essential: spillways, reservoirs, jetties, etc.

2. Who owned the levees anyway? The great private corporations?

Peter - 9/7/2005

This administration response to Katrina?
Well,it is a good example of "compassionate conservatism" at work.
We all remember this wonderful phrase...

Chris Osborne - 9/7/2005

I guess the comments of "right wing fundamentalist" Ms. Jon and the spokesperson from the National Lawyers Guild indicate that both the Far Right and Far Left suffer from grave blind spots and opposed yet mutually naive conceptions of their society and the world at large.
The Far Right continues to blame everything in America today on the "Immoral 60s." Thus all disasters are allegedly God's punishment on modern America--as witness Jerry Falwell's comment that the 9/11 catastrophe was God's punishment on an immoral society and the right-wing cry that the AIDS epidemic was God's punishment on homosexuals for their "systemic sleaziness."
On the other hand, we once more see the Far Left romanticizing communist dictatorships, implying that Fidel Castro's regime is an island paradise. Their pointing out that Cuba has national health care obscures the reality that many Cuban hospitals suffer from heavy insect infestation and that patients receive poor attention from overworked staffs (see the conservative blog "The Black Informant"). Also read Haynes and Klehr's book "In Denial" for Far Left romanticizing or downplaying of the crimes of the former Soviet Union and Joseph Stalin.

Chris Osborne - 9/7/2005

Hurricane Katrina has indeed revealed that the U.S. may more nearly approach the laissez-faire capitalist "survival of the fittest" concept than any other industrialized nation. The stranding of the poor is thus fully consistent with the lack of care for the poor; and the failure to evacuate them in advance of the hurricane is indicative that their interests are not looked out for by those in power. The failure to evacuate the poor may have also been based in substantial part on misconceptions about welfare. Vast numbers of Americans believe that welfare recipients live high on the hog and that, as a result, "everybody has a car." But I understand a person must be pretty well devoid of assets to get on welfare, thus there are indeed people who do not have access to a car.
The political fallout from the hurricane might provide impetus to those who favor a more caring and human needs-oriented society; and may also provide impetus for the switching of more defense spending to social programs. On the other hand, the social democracies who provide greater social welfare supports for their populations also have much higher tax rates than the U.S. Low taxes have been an obsession in this country since the 12-yr. prelude of colonial restiveness before the American Revolution, thus I seriously doubt that the "low tax crowd" will be very enthusiastic about social democratic options.

Frank Couvares - 9/7/2005

The lessons of Katrina are many, but here are two:
1. Class, which in the US is heavily race-based, is real and it means very simple things, such as the difference between living and dying in times of stress.
2. The consequences of "starving the beast" are not hard to see or to have predicted: when we need the government to do what only it can do, we will be out of luck.

When combined, #1 & #2 mean this: the least advantages suffer and die when we cut taxes and government services. Who is surprised at this?

Peter K. Clarke - 9/6/2005

To the blind Bush-can-do-no-wrong-ers here:

If you want to nitpick, at least find the right nits.
My comment about impeachment was only meant in the context of the original statement "One who should know better calls for impeachment." Impeachment is only an accusation based on suspected offenses. The offenses President G.W. Bush is reasonably suspected of are roughly a thousand times (give or take a few hundred) more serious than what Clinton was actually impeached for. Enough of this rotten and to high heaven stinking hypocritical horse manure about impeachment !

I agree that one should try to stick to the topic on these comment boards, as rare as that actually is, and try to make positive contributions towards solving America's problems. But America's problems do not include how to make pitifully ridiculous excuses for every single one of the vast multitude of blunders and outrages committed by the most incompetent and embarrassing and unpresidential U.S. president since Warren G. Harding at least. Incompetency is not a partisan issue, nor is the duty to recognize, acknowledge and deal with it assigned solely to "one issue parrots".

- 9/6/2005

Peter, I partly agree!

First, the agreement.

"Shame on the crooked politicians in Louisiana and across the country who repeatedly "cure" problems by screwing taxpayers"

Consider this. New Orleans did not enforce the mayor's evac order, at all. In Hurricane Camille, in 1969, Governor Thompson had his entire police force on duty to forcibly enforce it, and the mayor had the police force on duty for three days until the winds reached 60 mph, to enforce evac by riding with the schoolbuses to pick up stragglers.

Oh, the schoolbuses: the current mayor left them unused for evacuation. They were all inundated and destroyed. The current mayor Neighan satisfied himself by crying in front of the camera for all of the loss of life which he had caused!

And the others:

" stereotype that has been massively, long-lastingly, and repeatedly reinforced since G. W. Bush's reign of ineptitude began"

Hyperbole, anyone?

"Americans are arrogant, sloppy, boorish, uncivilized and race-fixated ignorant fools."

More hyperbole, but speak for yourself, please.

I would not overuse the anti-Bush defamation of the current leftist German and French leaders. They are sure to lose, in the forthcoming elections, due to matching 13% unemployment rates, and you may be surprised that Germany's next (female) Bundeskanzler gets on very well with Bush, ditto most of the French right-center coalition.

"Shame on the lazy half-educated couch potatoes who don't know global warming from the hot air coming out of their mouths."

Sir, I refer you to the recent series of solar warming articles in "Science" which demonstrate the dangers of non-scientists, history profs, and bureaucrats trying to deal with something as complex as climate.

It seems that the entire fraction of a degree of warming over the last 20 years, so often ballyhooed, is fully accounted for by an increased solar flare cycle with repeats itself every century or so. Whoops.

The warming caused by CO(2) is far less (<5%) in its potential for warming compared to this solar activity increase.

More research is needed, as always.
But things are not looking good for the climate extremists and their utopian prescriptions.

"Shame on the ...lazy ignoramuses who should have known better than to vote for W over McCain in 2000 and W over Donald Duck in 2004."

Partly agree. I don't like any of them, particularly, and I fault our selection process for it. There are great leaders in America. They are not on this list.

Thanks again.

John Woolfolk - 9/6/2005

Dennis of no last name wrote...

<You wrote: "Pres. Bush called both the Governor and Mayor three days before the storm hit, asking that the evacuation plan be implemented. They refused."

Oh, really? Proof? Sources?>

"Journal Editorial Page", (PBS) Sunday, Sept 4, 2005.

But, let us just stipulate, for sake of our "discussion" that you are right and Bush did not plead for the evacuation plan to be put into effect. That still does not take the blame off of the mayor or governor and put it on Bush's shoulders. They chose to not-use their very elaborate evacuation plan so we got to see, on TV, dead bodies floating by submerged city and school buses which were not used to evacuate the poor. As I said in my original posting..."There is plenty of blame to go around."

Peter K. Clark calls it "treason" and returns to the Iraq problem. (Choosing to ignore that the topic of this "poll" is "What Does Katrina Tell Us About American Society?".

If this be true then we will have to indict the leadership of both parties of Congress and most of the members. They were privy to the same intelligence that the president was and the majority voted to give him the power to invade Iraq. Maybe we will have to indict former president Clinton too because it was his policy to rely more on high tech and fewer "feet on the ground" for intelligence gathering.

But all this is also, as I pointed out in my original post, pointless. There will be time to lop off heads and correct errors, misdeeds and stupidity when the victims have been
rescued and given food and shelter. That is well under way.

But Dennis & Peter, like so many in our country today, act like one-phrase parrots. No matter if the subject is war, politics, society, education, etc. ad naseum, their immediate comment is "Blame Bush".
Of course, like the stopped clock which is correct twice every 24 hours, they do get it right occasionally. And, of course, like the stopped clock they present mostly error and offer nothing of value to right a bad situation. At the risk of repeating myself, we need people working on solutions, not whining about past transgressions, real or imaginary.

Jim B. Harris - 9/6/2005

Great points. When the going gets tough, the tough get going, and the whiners start whining.

Of course President Bush is at fault for even allowing one of the worst natural disaster's to even reach our shores!

The problem with the left is they have fallen into a groove in which the only thing to do is point fingers, and play the blame game.

We all need to step back and take a deep breath. This was one of the worst disaster's in our nations history. Folks in the area had several days warning that a level 5 Hurricane was headed in their direction.

Maybe next time the people that can will get out, and the people that need assistence will get it. Maybe next time we won't build a city below sea level, especially one that is subject to Hurricanes. Maybe we will also learn from what has happened and will respond better in the future. One thing we know won't happen is a large group of loser's will try to score political points from what has happened, even before all the bodies are recovered.

Peter K. Clarke - 9/6/2005

You are correct to imply that gross serial incompetence is not an impeachable offense.
But treason is. To deliberately launch an unnecessary foreign military intervention under demonstrably false pretenses, that predictably would, and since then (at least arguably) has, seriously weakened America's national security, would be a betrayal of the oath to faithfully excite the presidency. How many Americans died in New Orleans because the resources that might have saved them were squandered on a reckless and bogus "cakewalk" to Baghdad is a question for future economists and historians. What the administration knew, did, and has covered up about Iraq from Sept, 2001 'til now is -or at least ought to be- a matter for the House Judiciary Committee.

Democracy needs more than "adult discussion". It also needs adult accountability. Credible and lasting solutions to either the Iraq mess or America’s unpreparedness for future natural disasters at home are unlikely unless accompanied by appropriate punishment for dereliction of duty and betrayal of trust. Starting at the top and working down.

- 9/6/2005

It’s a natural catastrophe that happens to drive home many shortcomings in a much touted democracy. It justifiable exposes raw discrepancies between have and have-nots, opens political debate over how this government, at all levels, is being run. One of the questions many keep asking these days: who is it really being run for? The way you answer this question may depend on one’s personal politics. City, state, and federal government are all involved here. This is political. This about our democratic system. How an organization like FEMA or Homeland Security operates depends on politics. If you don’t watch your politics as a government worker you don’t rise in the hierarchy. The "GS-100" in the White House sets the tone. He is responsible for what flows downstream. If there is a failure of leadership and vision in the President and in the Congress who is supposed to control the President there is a failure of democracy. No, Katrina was not a political event. But even natural events create the need for explanations of what could have been done to save more lives. Without this debate you can’t have a transparent democracy.

J. Chapman

jack myers - 9/6/2005

comment BUSH SPELL POTATO i think you are adding the e like quail.your judgement has ben suspect every since you were elected.its pretty obvious where your priorities are and the country as a whole has sufferd because of them.please use the balance of your time as pres to rectify .

Dennis - 9/5/2005

You wrote: "Pres. Bush called both the Governor and Mayor three days before the storm hit, asking that the evacuation plan be implemented. They refused."

Oh, really? Proof? Sources?

John Woolfolk - 9/5/2005

I am greatly saddened by the comments I have been reading here. The conclusions from the religious right show not more thought than the ones from the dogmatic left. One who should know better calls for impeachment. Here we see the race-card, the class-card and political bias at play when we need to work toward solutions. There is plenty of blame to go around. Louisiana has and exemplary emergency plan designed to handle exactly what happened in New Orleans. Pres. Bush called both the Governor and Mayor three days before the storm hit, asking that the evacuation plan be implemented. They refused. Now, suddenly it is all Bush's fault. Ridiculous! FEMA has obviously screwed up royally and it happened on Bush's watch so he gets blamed, as is right, but this juvenile finger pointing should never have happened and should stop now. This site should be for adult discussion, not adolescent whining. We all need to grow up and act like we understand and deserve a democracy

Ray Whitener - 9/5/2005

Black Tuesday remade the face of America; December 7, 1941 caught America unprepared and September 11, 2001 brutally attacked the America way of life. The arrival of Katrina again shook America.

As with the many traumatic events that have shaken America, Katrina has rocked America's foundations of preparedness and put the country on the receiving end of benevolent acts.

The plight of the inner city poor is now exposed to the world microscope and America's me attitude is being eclipsed with many selfless acts.

The Glass House has been shaken, but not broken. We will acknowledge our vulnerablilities and learn from them. The spirit of America will once again prevail.

Hyman Kuritz - 9/5/2005

This has been said before but it needs to be repeated again and again. For many years and long before President Bush, the federal overnment has catered to private interests; Enron, the environment, developers given a free hand at the expense of wetlands, and, of course, the neglect of the levees in New Orleans. Public policy and the public interest was virtually always subordinated to the lobbyists of the private sector. this neglect of public policy and its consequences is now overwhelimingly obvious. I doubt that the Bush Administration, even now, will give up its mantra, privatization. It will take a powerful social and political uprising to change the political culture of this country. Nothing less willbringdesirable change.

gary daily - 9/5/2005

Try reading my clumsily titled post:
Bush and Katrina and othe Hurricanes (#67688).

But the point is who will speak for the dead and the lives near death (socially and psychologically) if critics of the tardy, inept and unfeeling response of Bush and others is not questioned now.

Felicia(Fee) - 9/5/2005

We must remain civil on all levels. It's easy to point fingers at who made mistakes, etc. But main thing we must do is to work together. Bush certainly is doing all he can, and has a heart of compassion for those who have suffered. I am black and don't like what I'm hearing that he doesn't care about black people...Bush cares about ALL people. Let's be reminded that Pres. Bush's response was limited in a way until help was requested at the local level. But nevertheless, he HAS stepped in with Federal help.

Conservative Commentator Sher Zieve - 9/5/2005

The American people, as is always consistent, have opened their hearts and wallets to assist those in their desperate need. But, just as the US citizenry is consistent in their giving, so is the mainstream press consistent in their Bush-bashing. Our leftist press will, apparently, remain the media organ of the leftist New Democrat Party.

Question to the media: Can you not wait to spew your invectives until after we've been able to rescue the hurricane victims?

Sadly, the answer seems to be "No".

Anita Wills - 9/5/2005

When the first pictures started coming out of New Orleans, I was surprised. It had not occurred to me that most of those living in the Big Easy were African Americans. I have never been to New Orleans, but like most people knew someone that was born there, or had visited. It was a place I wanted to go to someday, as a tourist.

The Media was there almost immediately, and so was the Coast Guard. Bush was announcing that help was on the way, yet after three, four, and five days none arrived. Then the media began following folks around and accusing them of looting. I saw blacks in the foreground, and whites in the background. They were picking up items of food and clothing. Items that were already storm damaged, and (hopefully), not going to be sold.

All of a sudden people were coming out of the woodworks complaining about these folks looting. Yet, what would I have done in those circumstances, if my loved ones were suffering? There is no way I could sit by and see my Grandchildren hungry, bruised, and crying, and do nothing. The complains about looting were the finger pointing of people who had nothing better to do. How much could any one person loot, when folks homes were gone. That is when the race issue came out, and things turned nasty.

The Coast Guard was there, and rescued people regardless of race. They showed up and did a commendable job, as Bush panned for the camera. Many of those stranded were white, who are also poor in Louisiana. It is one of the poorest states in America, so no surprise that there would be poor whites and blacks.

It is not the people who create the issues of race vs class, it is the politicians. For some reason they cannot run a campaign with creating a division. Class divisions are just as destructive as race divisions. It takes away hope and labels people unworthy of the American Dream.

When the question of race vs class arises, I say there is room for neither in a Democracy.

Don McArthur-Self - 9/5/2005

The basic criticism is fair enough - evacuation plans were inadequate. It's easier for those with money and resources (the "haves") to evacuate than the "have nots."

This is not a failure of "democracy," however. It is a failure of all sorts of things - from individual judgment, to long-term and short-term planning by government agencies at all levels.

Which governmental agencies had easiest access to "busses" to evacuate people who lacked their own means of transport? Local. Whose responsibility is the initial evacuation? The city and state. Who told people to go to the SuperDome in the first place? The city and state.

The Federal response once the levee broke was slow - especially FEMA, apparently. On the other hand, a Federal military response to a disaster presupposes a request from the governor of a state.

Moreover, local news accounts from Mississippi and Alabama paint a different picture of the response there, and the responsible Federal agencies are providing aid and assistance across three states.

There have been obvious and tragic miscalculations and failures by local, state, and federal officials. This really isn't a political event; it's a natural catastrophe. We've not handled it as well as we should have - in New Orleans, espcially. Let's learn from the errors and get on with the rebuilding.

Phil - 9/5/2005

That Marie Jon' has the wisdom as Ester in the Bible. I read her words with great interest! She is a person we need to be leaders of our nation.
P Abbinante

gary daily - 9/5/2005

In a telling early statement, here’s President Bush talking to Diane Sawyer about Hurricane Katrina on “Good Morning America,”

“I'm not expecting much from foreign nations because we haven't asked for it. I do suspect a lot of sympathy and perhaps some will send cash dollars. But this country -- this country is going to rise up and take care of it. You know, we'd love help. But we're going to take care of our own business as well. And there's no doubt in my mind we'll succeed.”

What’s the matter with that statement?

Enough was wrong with it that Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice and first lady Laura Bush were soon out on the debris strewn and water sogged hustings of the Gulf Coast trying to establish a semblance of compassionate high ground to counteract the wooden lack of empathy so characteristic of Mr. Bush. But talk, stiff or soft, at such times as these hangs for only a moment in the minds of those who are suffering. What the hurricane victims needed was safe ground, a drink of water and a little food. It would be for most four long days and nights to a week before this minimal comfort would come their way.

But looking at Bush’s statement again it’s clear that our President did not misspeak or get the wrong Phrase of the Day from Karl Rove’s political sound bite spin machine. This quotation represents a nicely rounded encapsulation of the Bush administration’s tough talk/double-speak operating philosophy. It goes like this:

--The United States doesn’t ask or need anything from anyone else in the world. (Except when we feel like trumpeting exaggerations about a “Coalition of the Willing.)

--The United States takes care of its own business. (Except when we are doing trade deals with China and NAFTA that sell out American workers and the world’s environment.)

--The United States is always successful. (Except when it comes to turning tax cuts for the rich into a living wage for the working poor.)

Now Bush apologists are circling the wagons and taking preemptive strikes at a media that has suddenly (temporarily?) found its voice and is asking and expecting answers to hard questions. Once again Bush is depending on the public’s notoriously short memory and attention span. White House strategists reason that if they can survive the first onslaught of the valid criticisms about inaction and lack of preparation costing lives on the Gulf Coast, they will be home free . . . again.

Expect to hear Bush and the megaphones surrounding him saying things like: “Let’s not play politics with this natural tragedy.” and “I’m not going to get involved in the blame game.” These are dodges and diversions designed to blunt and delay the search for the sources of incompetence and inefficiency that compounded the disaster that unfolded on your TV all last week . This strategy of distract and delay worked on the 9/11 investigation Bush opposed until a group of New Jersey widows descended on Congress. And it’s been working on the war in Iraq until Cindy Sheehan’s courage and outrage slapped Americans out of their synthetic patriotic stupor.

Who or what group will step up to speak for all whose lives have been ruined beyond repair, and all who died, huddled alone in some attic or swept away by the currents flowing with indifference through breaks in inadequate levees?

It can’t be the one-third of the Louisiana National Guard or the one-half of the Mississippi National Guard units huddled around TVs in Iraq, worried and sick to death about their loved ones, unable to perform a job of value at home, courageously following orders in a war not of their making.

It won’t be local and state political officials, self-righteous with anger before the cameras today, accommodating and self-satisfied with the big business deals cut with energy companies yesterday. Deals that denuded the coast of protective barrier islands and buffering mangroves.

It won’t be the United States Congress which, following a time-honored tradition, recently delivered a federal transportation bill to the citizens of the nation with enough pork in it to easily plug all the breaches in the New Orleans levees.

It won’t be the President. He’s on message. He’s not playing politics with this natural tragedy and not getting involved in the blame game. And it’s easy to understand why.

That leaves the Fourth Estate, the press, and the public to speak for all those lost and broken lives along the Gulf coast. If the press and the public should choose to examine the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina with any thoroughness, they will also have to examine the links between that natural calamity and the human policy decisions creating the ongoing death and destruction in our nation’s life due to Hurricane Poverty, Hurricane Racism, and Hurricane Class.

Few will choose to stand within the fury of those winds.

Instead, the dead, the destroyed, and the despairing will be offered an alternative to hard self-examination accompanied by real change. They will hear the word Hope ringing loudly from a hollow bell. But hope, as it has been said, is a good breakfast but a poor supper.

Gary W. Daily

- 9/5/2005

What this tragedy in New Orleans is telling Americans is that we cannot count on our government to help in time of disaster ,even the poorest and the most helpless amomg us.Now is time for Americans to face the truth about ourselves. our tax money is going to fight wars for oil and to satisfy the greed of the Wealthiest in our society.What it means is the truth we can no longer afford to ignore Our country is now ruled by an element that believes in survival of the fittest or social Darwinism but also includes Christian fascism.Isn't it time we Ameicans stop kidding ourselves and find the courage to speak up like Cindy Sheean instead of the nation of enablers we have become.How many more disasters will it take to arouse Americans from our apathy and ignorance.

Peter K. Clarke - 9/5/2005

Your comments are correct but nevertheless widely off-base. No legitimate devotee of free markets can credibly claim that they suffice for 100% of human needs. Not even the most rabid chickenhawk tried to pretend that unfettered free enterprise would get rid of Saddam Hussein or ward off Islamic terrorism, for example. Trying to thrust the Katrina scandal in a liberal vs conservatism straightjacket risks allowing the responsible scoundrels to hide their corruptness and incompetence behind a supposed difference of position on a supposed "political spectrum".

James Brewer Stewart - 9/5/2005

It says volumes about those who rule us that they want us to see Katerina as a "natural disaster." It has been, and continues to be anything but that. Racist politicians and their corporate overlords, not "Mother Nature" let the levees degenerate, exiled poor black people from the evacuation and utterly fail

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