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Bret StephensOpponents of the proposed Ground Zero mosque in New York City (Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity, most prominently) have adduced the feelings of the 9/11 victims’ families as the primary reason why it should not be built several blocks from the site of the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history. But at the risk of appearing even more heartless than these aforementioned conservatives,wounded emotions are not the reason to be against this particular Islamic worship center. Rather, the psychological and geo-religious symbolism a mosque at Ground Zero would represent is the problem.
Stephen M. WaltItems of interest in the news media's coverage of"moderate Muslims":
• The New York Times, Oct. 19, 2001:"Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki, spiritual leader at the Dar al-Hijra mosque in Virginia, one of the nation's largest. . . . is held up as a new generation of Muslim leader capable of merging East and West."...
Most readers probably know of Awlaki as the U.S.-born imam who presided over the mosque attended by two of the 9/11 hijackers. Awlaki also served as theological mentor to Fort Hood killer Nidal Malik Hassan, would-be Christmas Day bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, and Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad. President Obama has authorized the military to assassinate Awlaki, now thought to be living in Yemen....
Now we have the controversy over the Ground Zero mosque, opponents of which are being widely branded as bigots. As, no doubt, some of them are: There are bigots in any crowd.
Then again, is it bigoted to oppose bigots?...
Simon SchamaCritics of the proposal are aware that their views contradict the principle of religious tolerance on which the United States was founded, so they have fallen back on the idea that building the community center here is"insensitive" to the families who lost loved ones back in 2001. (Presumably it's not"insensitive" that the same neighborhood contains strip clubs, bars, and all sorts of less-than sacred institutions). And notice the sleight-of-hand here: first, demogogues raise an uproar about a"Mosque at Ground Zero," thereby generating a lot of public outcry, and then defend this bigotry by saying that they're just trying to be"sensitive" to the objections they have helped to stir up....
Has Barack Obama just committed political suicide? By appearing to endorse the building of a mosque and Islamic cultural centre at the threshold of Ground Zero, has he set himself at odds with the majority of Americans who regard the idea as a desecration of “hallowed ground”?
But the critics are deluded. If the quarrel over the mosque at Ground Zero turns into a debate on the sovereign principles of the American way of life, it is the president and Mayor Bloomberg who will emerge with honour, as the true custodians of what the founders had in mind.
Freedom of conscience and religious practice, Mr Obama said at the Iftar dinner, and again in brief clarifying remarks, define “who we are”. And in reaffirming this bedrock principle, it is Mr Obama, not his enemies, who identifies himself as an authentic American patriot.
This matters. In our present obsession with the fate of money (entirely understandable if you have a whole lot less of it than you once did), we forget that the reason why young men and women are putting themselves in the line of fire is precisely our resistance to fanaticism of the kind that imagined massacre, inflicted on a tolerant and secular society, to be a sacred duty.

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Mosque on Ground Zero
Re: Obama's Obvious Agenda
I understand.
Take the following advice, like your eternal destiny depends on it, because it most certainly does.
Run, do not walk, to the nearest Bible. Turn to Rom 10:9 - 10. This will give you the "heart of the Gospel" message, and it will also tell you what you must be do to be saved by God. Then run, do not walk, to the nearest Bible believing church. Spend some time with Christians and let them point you to a relationship with the risen Lord!
I will pray for you.
There is no Ground Zero Mosque
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Its a great reference tool that brings to light what many would seek to erase. Simply that this country was founded on Christian principles. People can try to deny that. Obama can deny it by stating that somehow all religions are equal, or all religions point to God, but that is blasphemy.
Its clear he doesn't understand that the ONLY reason the US ever became a great nation is that both the leaders and the people were Christian and educated. Unfortunately, today they are neither.
That is why someone who is not eligible to be the President. (Look up the original definition of "natural born citizen") can yell "Hope and change" and enough non Christian, uneducated, emotional children don't bother to ask what he means by that, they just vote for him. (Sorry, I'm digressing).
Anyway, if you really want to know why Obama never saw a mosque he didn't like, pick up a copy of "The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism: Adolf Hitler and Haj Amin Al-Husseini" by Chuck Morse.
Ask yourself this question: What do you think the Muslims response would be if the US wanted to build a Christian church next to the "Dome of the Rock" on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem?
I'm sure we all know what the response would be.
Wake up! Or you will soon find yourself in chains.
"Ground Zero" Mosque
Any fool can see from Google Earth that the cultural center is NOT at Ground Zero, but that won't stop the crazies from ginning up fear and hatred.
It may be that Bin Laden saw our society as being brittle, ready to break down with a tap to the right spot.
Having supplied that tap, he stood back to wait as we destroy ourselves.
Re: "Ground Zero" Mosque
We cannot and should not let the terrorists 'win' by reacting to their atrocities with uncontrolled hatred.
Ground Zero Mosque
Re: Obama's Obvious Agenda
So the Noahide Laws are not instructions given to the Jews that they are required to "perform" on non Jews.
Compare that to the following in the Koran:
Sura 9:5 "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely allah is forgiving, merciful"
Also take a look at Sura 4:56; 2:7, 9:23, 123.
Do you see the difference?
God instructs His disciples and lets them make their individual choice, whether to obey, or not.
The devil, through the Koran, tells his followers to control and kill others.
Obama's Obvious Agenda
In the Bible, God is very clear in telling us the truth, and at same time, giving everyone the right to choose. The devil is always lying and attempting to control everyone.
Which of those two world views do you think Islam most represents?
How can Obama, who claims to be Christian, approve of what Islam teaches?
His true belief system is now very clear.
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"The devil...."
Re: Obama's Obvious Agenda
His true belief system is now very clear.>
First, the president does not have to 'approve' of a religion before it has (or rather, its followers have) the benefit of the Constitution's rights and privileges.
Second, how does any of this clarify the President's "true belief system"? He simply stated that Muslims have the same rights regarding their religion as do the followers of any other religion. If anything, it illustrates that his "system" regarding beliefs simply follows the principles of the Constitution that he swore to protect and defend.
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As for Professor Lee, what can one say about the purposely wrong reading of the material.
Mosque at Ground Zero
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And just for the record, the location of the proposed mosque is not at ground zero, but about 3-4 blocks away.