At Liberty and Power, Steve Horwitz has a characteristically thoughtful essay about the implications of the Killian Memos flap for communications in society. He further elaborates on that here. I don't know that I share all his enthusiasm for the free market's challenge to major media. It will inevitably mean that more rumor will float among us, to be passed on and challenged as may be. But I think some of the most important commentary on the whole matter builds on the experience of art historians. Both David Nishimura at Cronaca and, in the commentary on Horowitz's essay, Evan Lowell Maxwell, a reporter on the west coast, make the point that forgeries in art are most likely to be accepted when they both fill a gap in an artist's oeuvre and conform to expectations. That may mean that we have to be skeptical, especially when a document tends to confirm what we already believe. Nishimura goes on to point out that, often, a fraud can be detected from a second hand copy of it, but a work of art or, by implication, a document can not be certified as authentic except from the original of it. To my knowledge, CBS has not claimed to have had the original documents in hand.
*Josh Levin at Slate has the best summary of questions regarding the authenticity of the Killian Memos.


Denial of tenure, correctly-placed re-post of #41823
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Dr. Luker,
I don't know you, except through a couple of amiable emails and your posts here. I've seen enough sorrow in this world not to wish misfortune on anyone, much less a stranger. Having tenure denied is a wrenching experience, I doff my hat to you for picking yourself up and giving it another go. Being blacklisted and unemployed are honors that anyone would gladly forgo.
As for me, I have a job that I enjoy and that feeds my family, and that, with some considerable luck, I may be able to keep. So I count myself fortunate.
Thanks for asking.
Re: Assumptions
If you knew me, you wouldn't beat the status drum. I've been twice denied tenure, blacklisted, and unemployed for the last ten years. And how are you doing?
Re: Assumptions
--This is your printing press and you say what you will; I'm only a guest here. Nonetheless, thank you for sparing me one of your rants.
--For clarity, I bolded a remark of yours (post #41810, immediately above) that I took to be indicative of condescension. And I regret the brief tenure (post #41803, above) of my promotion here to Professor Mackay. Surely you bestowed that honorific with joshing good humor, not as a delicate reminder of the gap in prestige between our respective stations.
--As far as choice and attitude, I now understand your perspective. I trust that other readers will form their own opinions, based, as always, on the merits of the arguments as presented.
Re: Assumptions
Assumptions
"Regarding the limitations of what I realize, please consider that a post focused on subject A does not imply the absence of reflection on subject B. Perhaps open-ended queries would better serve your curiosity in such cases."
Prof. Luker, since you have not asked my opinion regarding Bush’s National Guard service, it is unlikely that you know what it is. It is possible, even likely, that you are incurious as to what I think, which is fine. After all, Prof. Dresner started this thread on the subject of the forged memos, not on the subject of Bush’s service record.
Returning us to your statement, immediately above:
[That my (RL’s)] conclusion about GWB's guilt is based entirely on ... evidence [you (AM) would] just as soon I not review because you don't want to hear it.
If you should become interested in my opinions on this matter, I might suggest once more that open-ended queries would better serve your curiosity in such cases. Invite me to guest-blog if you want a lengthy explanation.
One staple of the historical fiction on the Raj is the attitude of East India Company officials to their Native subordinates. "Condescension", unhappily, played a large role there. Interested readers will draw their own conclusions as to whether or not this thread exhibits any parallel.
Denial of tenure
I don't know you, except through a couple of amiable emails and your posts here. I've seen enough sorrow in this world not to wish misfortune on anyone, much less a stranger. Having tenure denied is a wrenching experience, I doff my hat to you for picking yourself up and giving it another go. Being blacklisted and unemployed are honors that anyone would gladly forgo.
As for me, I have a job that I enjoy and that feeds my family, and that, with some considerable luck, I may be able to keep. So I count myself fortunate.
Thanks for asking.
Re: Authenticity issues, and a quote providing some context
Re: Authenticity issues, and a quote providing some context
Authenticity issues, and a quote providing some context
The Wednesday 9/14 Washington Post has an article in the A section that evaluates the current state of the evidence(online here).
Wretchard of The Belmont Club paraphrases Stanley Kurtz' explanation of why CBS continues to stand by the forged memos: the "market segment of liberals now make up the bulk of CBS's audience, and it must please them at any price."
Wretchard continues, "If Kurtz's theory is correct, then outlets like CBS are in the process of offering liberalism a cup of poison. The function of news is to provide its readership with reliable information about their own society and the events that effect [sic] it. It gives readers a way of determining effects so they can alter causes. But any information system which throws data quality checks overboard or worse, inserts fraudulent data into its stores, is creating a catastrophe for its consumers."
A theme that's made multiple appearances on Cliopatria, usually accompanied by a knowing nudge-nudge-wink-wink, is that this instance of "framing a guilty man" isn't altogether regrettable.
Perhaps Wretchard's comment could offer a correction to this drift towards viewing Emmanuel Goldstein -- sorry, I mean George Bush -- through the lens of the Two Minute Hate.
Re: another document flap?
I wouldn't put such training "active duty" on my resume any more than I'd take a Purple Heart for a 3mm shrapnel wound, not fully embedded -- but then politicians as a group are susceptible to resume inflation.
Re: another document flap?
"In connection with my enlistment this date as a Reserve of the Air Force for service in the Air National Guard of the United States, I understand and agree that:
I will enter on active duty for training for 120 days or until I have satisfactorily completed the training courses which I have elected."
That seems pretty straightforward to me. I suspect it is an administrative thing. For instance in the regular Army when I served, there were limits on TDY away from a unit (though still a member of your current unit), such that if your schooling demands more than that, it involves what we call a PCS to another unit (that limit was 90 days when I was in). For Reserves or National Guard, it may involve administrative transfer to active duty, as there may be similar limits on assignment to units other than your own without such a transfer.
Some of his training apparently required 120 days. He was, I gather, administratively assigned to regular duty Air Force for 120 days or the duration of his training (to make allowance for illness, or recycling). It certainly wouldn't surprise me that there were aspects of his training as a pilot that required more than 90 days, and that required assignment to a regular duty Air Force slot. To me it looks like, in all probability, he was later assigned (as all pilots would be, presumably) to regular Air Force duty for the duration of that training.
That's how I read it. If there's an Air Force admin type out there who has a grip on this, speak up.
Authenticity Counterattack
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/9/10/34914/1603
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/10/213416/348
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/12/131946/512
Re: Authenticity Counterattack
another document flap?
Re: another document flap?
If you call up the pdf document that Drudge links to, you will find that it is only a conditional statement of understanding that Bush will serve 120 days. There is nothing there that certifies, as Drudge claims, that Bush _did_ serve those 120 days. About what the document says, you can dismiss your doubts.
Re: framing the guilty
Re: framing the guilty
The meaning of things
Interesting connection of the '60 Minutes' memos with the postmodern view of the meaning of things. Regarding 'meaning,' you wrote:
>The illegitimacy of suspicious documents is established on dubious grounds by partisan amateurs.
Perhaps you could amplify? I think you are comparing the opinion of the non-expert to the authority of the non-partisan and credentialed expert.
Maybe both have roles to play, and they overlap. One distinction might be between "experience" and "logic".
Here is a statement that would mean much more coming from a qualifed expert: "No typewriter sold in the United States in 1973 or before could produce the superscripted "th" on one of the memos."
Other statements are more accessible to direct powers of observation and logic. The expertness or credentials of the speaker might not greatly affect this 'proof by construction': "Here is a match between the memo, and the memo's text typed into Microsoft Word. I know of no-one who has produced a similar match between the memo and text placed by a non-TrueType device, mechanical or electronic."
In this narrow area, 'meaning' would seem to be clear, at least in cases where forgery can be established (cf. the much more difficult instance of not-disproven).
Re: framing the guilty
They don't cover Bush in honor, just the critics of Bush who fabricated them in dishonor -- and raises a question convenient to Bush: what else has been fabricated against him? The answer is probably next to nothing, but the question is more valuable to Bush than the answer.
Derrida's Revenge
Regardless of the claims made against Kerry and Bush, I am alarmed by the standards of proof that have been required to prove or disprove any charge. Are bureaucratic records no longer sufficient? Do we need videotape in order to prove our deeds? (Let’s not forget that there are people who claim the Rodney King tape old told part of the story.) In an interview of gossip hack Kitty Kelley, Matt Lauer effectively demanded an audio recording of conversations with Susan Bush. In my own research, am I supposed to assume that Nazis tampered with Adenauer’s records to make him look like a traitor. We can imagine that people will do anything in order to undermine opponents and put themselves on the side of right. But the possibility that someone could do so cannot be taken as proof that they have. If we approach all claims with such skepticism, which would stand? This is moving toward a major postmodern crisis in which the meaning of things can be undermined at will.
Re: Derrida's Revenge
Re: Derrida's Revenge
Leaning to Hitler
I know what you meant when you wrote you were leaning to Hitler, but couldn't you have phrased it just a little bit better?
Re: Leaning to Hitler
Re: Leaning to Hitler
Actually it did work. I laughed out loud in my office. Fortunately, I work for myself.
framing the guilty
Re: framing the guilty
Re: framing the guilty