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RE: will right wingers ever stop flaying this 50 year old corpse?
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by Elia Markell on June 22, 2003 at 8:59 PM
by Elia Markell on June 22, 2003 at 8:59 PM
Actually, a public repudiation of his parents would be poetic justice, given THEIR public repudiation of him and his brother, all for the Jim Jones-like pleasures of martyrdom. And martyrdom for what? To protect the butcher of 20 million Russians and those willing to sell out their country for him. To protect the man who sent millions of others to waste their lives in slave labor for the Soviet fantasy. When the left stops using the Rosenbergs to recharge their fury at America, perhaps Radosh will then feel free to let them lie forever in their deservedly unquiet grave. But not until then, I hope.
hmm
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by Hepatitus on June 22, 2003 at 10:25 PM
by Hepatitus on June 22, 2003 at 10:25 PM
I'm on the left, and I'm trying to remember the last time I mentioned the rosenbergs in any context..guess i better look for another "fury recharge."
I repeat--that radosh, 50 years after the fact, ist still demanding that the son repudiate his dead parents is wierd, mean spiritedm, and obsessive. Tells you all you need to know about the guy
I repeat--that radosh, 50 years after the fact, ist still demanding that the son repudiate his dead parents is wierd, mean spiritedm, and obsessive. Tells you all you need to know about the guy
RE: hmm
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by Elia Markell on June 23, 2003 at 10:05 AM
by Elia Markell on June 23, 2003 at 10:05 AM
You keep repeating this "50 years after the fact" as if it were Radosh who brought all this up recently out of pure mean-spirited spite. In fact, his open letter was in response to Robert Meeropol's recently published book, in which he again attempts to exonerate his parents and blame America for his woes. If Mr. Meeropol decides to put his life in the public line of fire, he should expect to get exactly this sort of reaction.
Also, it was the left that held a warm memorial in NYC for the Rosenbergs precisely on the 50th anniversary of their deaths just a few days ago, full of exactly the "fury" toward the rest of America which is so characteristic of it. When the left stop "flaying," Hep, perhaps those of us getting flayed will stop flaying back.
RE: hmm
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by Hepatitus on June 23, 2003 at 10:32 AM
by Hepatitus on June 23, 2003 at 10:32 AM
I don't "forget it", I never knew it. when "the left" held this warm reception they must have forgotten to tell me about it. "the left" is a favorite cardboard target around here, used to stand for whatever you dislike. The rosenberg case is not important at all except to a few obsessed people like yourself, and the rosenberg's son, who, somewhat pathetically, clings to the memory of his parents. As I say, it is mean spirited and ungracious to continue to demand that he repudiate his parents.
RE: hmm
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by Elia Markell on June 23, 2003 at 11:04 AM
by Elia Markell on June 23, 2003 at 11:04 AM
You wish to pretend this all has nothing to do with the left as a whole. But while you may not have heard of the Rosenberg memorial, it was indeed widely publicized on the left.
As for Robert Meeropol, in fact, the only possible way for him to finally STOP "repudiating" his parents is to honestly face the truth about them and what they were. Even you make that clear in your reference to him as "pathetically clinging" to their memory. You fool yourself into thinking it is I who am obsessed and mean-spirited, yet I cringed at your description. Not because Robert is not somewhat pathetic, but because of the harsh and casual way you toss that fact off. In truth, what he pathetically clings to are his illusions about his parents (and their cause) not the truth of who they were. Those illusions are what makes his story more than personal, more than a matter of the past, but living now, and, yes, living on "the left."
RE: hmm
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by Elia Markell on June 23, 2003 at 10:08 AM
by Elia Markell on June 23, 2003 at 10:08 AM
You keep repeating this "50 years after the fact" as if it were Radosh who brought all this up recently out of pure mean-spirited spite. In fact, his open letter was in response to Robert Meeropol's recently published book, in which he again attempts to exonerate his parents and blame America for his woes. If Mr. Meeropol decides to put his life in the public line of fire, he should expect to get exactly this sort of reaction.
Also, it was the left that held a warm memorial in NYC for the Rosenbergs precisely on the 50th anniversary of their deaths just a few days ago, full of exactly the "fury" toward the rest of America which is so characteristic of it. When the left stop "flaying," Hep, perhaps those of us getting flayed will stop flaying back.
RE: will right wingers ever stop flaying this 50 year old corpse?
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by john horse on June 29, 2003 at 10:09 PM
by john horse on June 29, 2003 at 10:09 PM
Thanks Hepatitus. I think you were right on target about Radosh. He is mean-spirited. He could have written about his version of the Rosenberg case without this call for Rosenberg's son to denounce his parents. Denouncing your parents was something done in totalitarian societies like Stalin's Russia. One thing I've come to expect from right-wing historians like Radosh and Horowitz is a certain degree of nastiness.
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by Hepatitus on June 22, 2003 at 2:23 PM