Fischer(#53041)
by Kenneth R Gregg on February 9, 2005 at 4:33 PM
Chris,
Interesting that you mention the Fischer book that I'm currently reading. It's oversized, much rather like one of those books found on the coffee tables in someone's house who has no bookshelves covering most of the walls (Reason Forbid!).
I'm rather uncomfortable with the belief that 'the "rights of individual independence" and the "rights of collective belonging" are essential parts of the same fabric.' Benjamin Constant is a pretty good corrective for that view in his classic essay, "Liberty of the Ancients Compared With That of the Moderns." He points out the distinctions between the old classic collective sense of liberty and the modern individualist form.
Re: Fischer(#53061)
by Chris Matthew Sciabarra on February 9, 2005 at 7:02 PM
Hi Ken,
There is a more "collectivist" reading of that line---and given today's political vernacular, it is a likely reading. I don't think I'd ever refer to the "rights" of collective belonging in any event.
However, the larger point I was suggesting is that there is a very important aspect of the classical liberal tradition that understands the genuinely social character of human beings. Genuine liberalism and individualism are not "atomistic." They recognize that a variety of voluntary social relations are the lifeblood of civil society.
I'm not always a big fan of neologisms, but my favorite is one that Spencer MacCallum used in an essay in Reason magazine in the early 1970's, "Associated Individualism." This captured a lot of the sense of being in social settings which respect individuals.
by Kenneth R Gregg on February 9, 2005 at 4:33 PM