David Goodman: Calls for NYT reporter on the Pentagon payroll to lose his Pulitzer over Nagsaki reporting
BOB GARFIELD: Weller's accounts languished in storage until this year. But the New York Times had its own reporter on the atomic beat. William L. Laurence wasn't ever on the ground in Japan. Instead, the Pulitzer Prize-winning science writer was a proto embed, flying above Japan when the bomb called Fat Man was dropped on Nagasaki. It was extraordinary access. And Laurence had also observed the atomic bomb's manufacture and testing. His ten-part series profiling the bomb, would win him and the Times a Pulitzer Prize in 1946. But until the bombs fell, Laurence protected another piece of intelligence. He had been on the payroll of the U.S. War Department. David Goodman wrote about Laurence in Exception to the Rulers, a book he co-authored with his sister Amy. David, welcome to the show.
DAVID GOODMAN: Thanks for having me, Bob.
BOB GARFIELD: Who was William L. Laurence?
DAVID GOODMAN: Laurence was an immigrant from Eastern Europe. He was a science reporter for the Times. He won his first Pulitzer Prize in 1937. And he became a staunch advocate of the atomic bomb long before the atomic bomb was ever dropped. Throughout the 1930's he was advocating for research into the use of atomic power, such that he earned a nickname, "Atomic Bill."
BOB GARFIELD: So when the War Department was looking explicitly for a working newspaperman to help mold public opinion about the bomb, natural choice.
DAVID GOODMAN: Indeed. General Leslie Groves, who was the military director of the Manhattan Project, scientists who researched and created the bomb, his own words were that he was looking for a "suitable newspaperman" to tell the story of the bomb to the public, to put the language of this arcane science in laypeople's terms. So in March 1945 there was an extraordinary secret meeting held at the offices of the New York Times, in which General Groves came to meet with William Laurence and asked that he become a special consultant to the War Department.
BOB GARFIELD: David, there is one brief passage in a piece by Laurence as he flew in the plane that was about to drop the bomb on Nagasaki, that is an astonishing window into his frame of mind. Can you read that for me, please?
DAVID GOODMAN: What Laurence wrote was that he felt no, quote, "pity or compassion for the poor devils" who were about to die. And he went further because his compassion was reserved for the bomb itself. When the bomb detonated, quote, "Awe-struck, we watched it shoot upward like a meteor coming from the earth instead of from outer space, becoming ever more alive as it climbed skyward through the white clouds. It was a living thing, a new species of being, born right before our incredulous eyes."
BOB GARFIELD: Now the story goes beyond Laurence reporting, with an obvious conflict of interest, about the dropping of the bomb. It gets far more sordid because when the news of radiation disease began to leak out, the War Department went into full defensive mode and used Laurence to publish, in effect, disinformation. Tell me about that.
DAVID GOODMAN: General Groves handpicked a group of journalists to accompany him not to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but to the bomb site out in New Mexico where the first bomb was detonated. And it was there that William Laurence wrote what General Groves had wanted him to write. Laurence, quoting General Groves, writes, "The Japanese claim that people died from radiation. If this is true, the number was very small." Laurence continues in his own editorializing in the story. He writes, "The Japanese are still continuing their propaganda, aimed at creating the impression that we won the war unfairly, and thus attempting to create sympathy for themselves and milder terms. Thus, at the beginning, the Japanese described symptoms that did not ring true." ...
Read entire article at NPR interview from 2005 rebroadcast 8-12-07
DAVID GOODMAN: Thanks for having me, Bob.
BOB GARFIELD: Who was William L. Laurence?
DAVID GOODMAN: Laurence was an immigrant from Eastern Europe. He was a science reporter for the Times. He won his first Pulitzer Prize in 1937. And he became a staunch advocate of the atomic bomb long before the atomic bomb was ever dropped. Throughout the 1930's he was advocating for research into the use of atomic power, such that he earned a nickname, "Atomic Bill."
BOB GARFIELD: So when the War Department was looking explicitly for a working newspaperman to help mold public opinion about the bomb, natural choice.
DAVID GOODMAN: Indeed. General Leslie Groves, who was the military director of the Manhattan Project, scientists who researched and created the bomb, his own words were that he was looking for a "suitable newspaperman" to tell the story of the bomb to the public, to put the language of this arcane science in laypeople's terms. So in March 1945 there was an extraordinary secret meeting held at the offices of the New York Times, in which General Groves came to meet with William Laurence and asked that he become a special consultant to the War Department.
BOB GARFIELD: David, there is one brief passage in a piece by Laurence as he flew in the plane that was about to drop the bomb on Nagasaki, that is an astonishing window into his frame of mind. Can you read that for me, please?
DAVID GOODMAN: What Laurence wrote was that he felt no, quote, "pity or compassion for the poor devils" who were about to die. And he went further because his compassion was reserved for the bomb itself. When the bomb detonated, quote, "Awe-struck, we watched it shoot upward like a meteor coming from the earth instead of from outer space, becoming ever more alive as it climbed skyward through the white clouds. It was a living thing, a new species of being, born right before our incredulous eyes."
BOB GARFIELD: Now the story goes beyond Laurence reporting, with an obvious conflict of interest, about the dropping of the bomb. It gets far more sordid because when the news of radiation disease began to leak out, the War Department went into full defensive mode and used Laurence to publish, in effect, disinformation. Tell me about that.
DAVID GOODMAN: General Groves handpicked a group of journalists to accompany him not to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but to the bomb site out in New Mexico where the first bomb was detonated. And it was there that William Laurence wrote what General Groves had wanted him to write. Laurence, quoting General Groves, writes, "The Japanese claim that people died from radiation. If this is true, the number was very small." Laurence continues in his own editorializing in the story. He writes, "The Japanese are still continuing their propaganda, aimed at creating the impression that we won the war unfairly, and thus attempting to create sympathy for themselves and milder terms. Thus, at the beginning, the Japanese described symptoms that did not ring true." ...