Robert Kagan on a new league of democracies, cautious optimism about Iraq war [audio 11min @1:25]

Robert Kagan, currently advisor to presidential candidate Senator John McCain, warns of a division between the world’s democracies and autocracies, with the United States and Europe lining up against countries like China and Russia. Hopes that the fall of Communism marked a final victory for liberal democracy are misguided, he says, and calls on democratic countries to form a new 'league of democracies' to counter the threat from autocracies and Islamist radicalism. He also voices cautious optimism about the war in Iraq. The Return of History and the End of Dreams is published by Atlantic Books (UK) and Knopf (USA). The interviewer is journalist Andrew Marr, and Kagan answers queries from other guests, including historian Helen Rappaport, novelist and writer Andrew O'Hagan, and playwright, director and filmmaker Neil LaBute.