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Mar 9, 2010

What do you think of the filibuster?




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Food for Thought

Thomas Geoghegan in the New York Times:
About the Senate, a college professor of mine used to say, “One day, the Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional.” He was joking, I think.

But the Senate, as it now operates, really has become unconstitutional: as we saw during the recent health care debacle, a 60-vote majority is required to overcome a filibuster and pass any contested bill. The founders, though, were dead set against supermajorities as a general rule, and the ever-present filibuster threat has made the Senate a more extreme check on the popular will than they ever intended....

...the Constitution explicitly requires supermajorities only in a few special cases: ratifying treaties and constitutional amendments, overriding presidential vetoes, expelling members and for impeachments. With so many lawyers among them, the founders knew and operated under the maxim “expressio unius est exclusio alterius” — the express mention of one thing excludes all others. But one need not leave it at a maxim. In the Federalist Papers, every time Alexander Hamilton or John Jay defends a particular supermajority rule, he does so at length and with an obvious sense of guilt over his departure from majority rule....

...In Federalist No. 75, Hamilton denounced the use of supermajority rule in these prophetic words: “The history of every political establishment in which this principle has prevailed is a history of impotence, perplexity and disorder.” That is a suitable epitaph for what has happened to the Senate.

Julian Zelizer at CNN.com :

Last month, Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio, a strong defender of the public option for health care, warned:"I don't want four Democratic senators dictating to the other 56 of us and to the country, when the public option has this much support, that it is not going to be in it."

But in the end, those senators won the battle over the public option, as well as several other provisions in the health care bill.

They have emerged as the powerhouses of the Senate.

Before 2009, most Americans never heard of Sens. Ben Nelson, Max Baucus or Kent Conrad. More have heard of the Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman as a result of his Democratic vice presidential bid in 2000.

Yet now they are the movers and shakers in the Senate. Anyone who follows politics knows exactly who they are. It could not be further from 2005 when Nicholas Confessore in The New York Times wrote that" centrist Democrats today struggle with an unfriendly environment."

Throughout the Senate debate over health care, the centrists repeatedly forced the president's hand by insisting on changes to the legislation that made Obama's liberal base furious and which will constrain the impact of this legislation. Health care was the second major victory for centrists this year. They also were able to cut down the size of the economic stimulus bill back in February 2008.

Why is this small group of senators so influential and will this change? The first reason has to do with the nature of the Democratic Party. Democrats have never been as ideologically disciplined as the Republicans, and they have been less successful containing party differences.

Moreover, since 2006, Democratic leaders embraced a campaign strategy of attempting to expand their numbers by encroaching into conservative districts and states: The 50-state strategy.

In 2006 and 2008, the strategy paid off. The cost, however, has been that President Obama needs to maintain support among legislators who come from areas that don't lean Democratic -- or who don't share his policy views.

When some Democrats pushed to punish Lieberman -- who supported Arizona Sen. John McCain in the 2008 presidential campaign -- by stripping him of his committee chairmanship, Obama refused and insisted on keeping him in the Democratic coalition.

The second factor behind the new kings of the hill has to do with the sharpening of the partisan divide on Capitol Hill. The impact of growing party polarization since the 1970s has meant that winning votes from the other party is extraordinarily difficult. Except for rare moments, neither party can count on winning significant blocks of votes from the other side of the aisle.

As a result, it is essential that the majority party remains relatively unified in order to pass legislation. Obama has learned this lesson well. With health care in the Senate, he even failed to win the vote of the moderate Republicans Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. Because of such partisan intensity, the vote of just a few Democrats becomes that much more important. Nor can he afford to lose the vote of a defiant Independent, Lieberman, who still goes along with Democrats on many votes.

Finally, institutions matter. The U.S. now has a Senate that operates as a supermajority. The Senate now requires 60 votes on any piece of legislation given that senators are willing to use the filibuster on almost any bill. If the majority party needs 60 votes to pass a bill, and it can't win votes from the other side, a handful of moderates wield tremendous power.

Garrett Epps at Salon.com:
The Senate filibuster, as abused by the Republican minority, is a bad idea gone wrong. By allowing any senator to block a vote unless 60 senators vote to proceed, the filibuster rule permits senators representing a small minority of the population to block or delay measures that have overwhelming popular support.

But is it unconstitutional? Though the Constitution is silent, progressive icon Thomas Geoghegan thinks so. In a New York Times Op-Ed Monday, he argues that the filibuster is “at worst unconstitutional and, at best, at odds with the founders’ intent.”

I yield to no one in my admiration for Tom Geoghegan. His career as a labor lawyer and progressive writer leaves me in awe. I gave money to his ill-fated House campaign. For a brief period last year, he and I were part of a litigation team trying to prevent the dubiously Honorable Roland Burriss from squatting in Barack Obama’s old Senate seat for the remainder of Obama’s term.

But even Jove nods. Geoghegan’s arguments aren’t just flawed -- they are actually harmful to the cause of progressive constitutionalism. They may impel progressives to squander their energies on a constitutional crusade that will make them look hypocritical and ridiculous. Even worse, they may help legitimize the constitutional techniques that the right has devised to get its political way. Many of the same arguments were used during the Republican era of dominance to threaten the Democrats’ use of the filibuster to block Bush’s worst nominations. That dispute was settled by negotiation and deliberation -- which the founders clearly did intend -- instead of by spurious arguments about “original intent.”

The right has poisoned constitutional debate by advancing ridiculous claims -- that, say, the vice-president isn’t part of the executive branch, or that the president may ignore the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act -- and getting them taken seriously by claiming they are “clearly” part of the Framers’ “intent.”...

Geoghegan has some good suggestions -- a resolution by the House denouncing the filibuster and united political action to support candidates who will vote for reforms. But the right way to reform the filibuster is political, not constitutional. The Senate has changed its rules before -- until 1975, a cloture vote required 66, not 60, votes. The Senate can enact new rule changes. Obviously it would be hard to do, but it can be done....



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Luke Manget - 1/23/2010

Maybe one of you experts can help me out: when one thinks of the fillibuster, one thinks of Mr. Smith goes to Washington, or perhaps Strom Thurmonds' day-long tirade against the Civil Rights Act of 1957. Why don't Senators have to actually get up and talk it to death anymore? What we are seeing happening today is not actual filibustering; it's the threat of filibustering. When did that change? How can one person or a small group threatening to filibuster clog up the Senate to the point where it gets nothing done? Have the rules changed? Can we not go back to the way it was and actually make senators physically keep the floor until the bill is withdrawn?


Elizabeth Cregan - 1/22/2010

As much as I am in love with the founders and their document, I cannot pretend that their sentiments and intention can still be considered in today's govt. It's a different species, for good or bad, and there is no going back. As for the filibuster, well, anytime that there is so contested a proposition in govt, the filibuster is an important tool in protecting the constiuents of any given state, group, or (I hate saying this) party. If compromise cannot be reached, then perhaps a filibuster is necesary to remind both sides that they must work together, even if it means starting over from scratch. One thing that remains from the summer of 1787, is the need for parties to compramise in order to save the republic, and represent the WHOLE.


Floyd Barrows - 1/19/2010

Debate is absolutely and fundamentally a key part of any democracy. To stop debate should, nay must, require more than a simple majority. Otherwise, the simple majority and ride roughshod over the minority.
To avoid and prevent a filibuster, the voters should elect a sufficient majority to prevent the issue coming up.
The present significance of the filibuster today is a clear indication of the divisions within the electorate -- neither "side" can claim a mandate. Until the voters coalesce into a substantial majority, this divisiveness will rule the country.


Edmundo Sanchez - 1/18/2010

unconstitutional as is the entire us senate.


DUFOUR, TERRY J - 1/17/2010

As always, the demand for change of the rules comes from those ( in this case the liberals ) who need to have their way NOW. If part of the purpose and design of the senate is to force deliberation in the consideration of laws which can have long and deep effects on this country, the supermajority must be retained by that house. It is unfortunate if civility and compromise have so declined in our country and its government that it is impossible for one party to find ad hoc allies in the other party, but making it easier for one group to ignore the desires and fears of a very large portion of the citizenry is no satisfactory solution to that problem, and will only exacerbate it.


Donna McDaniel - 1/15/2010

It's time for the Senate to get back to basics and stop making up rules that suit political purposes--both sides use when they have the opportunity. One would think the whole purpose of the Senate is to avoid filibuster...but that would be more in keeping with the Constitution... let them filibuster, if they must, till the point where they look ridiculous and annoy everyone.
If the Senate can't work within the Constitution, then we need all new senators. What they are doing is a farce and makes one lose all respect for people who should be our leaders, not our grovelers.


Richard Williams - 1/14/2010

"The founders, though, were dead set against supermajorities as a general rule"

The founders were dead set against quite a few things that both Houses now practice. Singling out the filibuster when the Dems are in control, while ignoring other abuses, doesn't pass the smell test, IMHO.


Robert Lee Gaston - 1/13/2010

The filibuster forces both restraint and compromise.

Those who are against it fail to remember those times when they used it. Two years ago Democrats used it to stall judicial appointments. Are we better off because some of President Bush's appointments were denied the bench?

At present, the majority has the supermajority. All they need are ideas good enough to sell to their own party.

As to the courts. I doubt that any court would try to dictate the internal workings of another branch of government. They might remember that Congress is under no consitutional obligation to fund the courts.

A court might also remember that, other than the supreme court, the Federal Judiciary is a creation of Congress (1789), and can therefore be modified by Congress. Congress can in fact, "forget" to pay the judges.

As Casey Stengel used to say: "Look it up, its in the book".



Dale R Streeter - 1/13/2010

If a supermajority is needed to affect such a fundamental change in public policy and the role of government in our society, then perhaps that policy ought to be reconsidered.
Traditionally, the role of the upper house is designed to be one of moderation and restraint on the ephemeral political fads of the moment, a restraint on demagoguery and political opportunism.
Filibusters are the protection of the minority against the dominance of the majority. If the policy is a good one, e.g. civil rights, it will succeed in the end, if not, then a period of reconsideration is not bad.