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Sep 5, 2010

the bst + the brytest




So, like, this one chick dude is all,"College students don't read books anymore." And then all these other people get all, like, whatever, 'cause of they say that college students weren't reading in, like, the old days. Even in, I don't know, like the 1960s or something, when the hippies and stuff.

But like the chick dude who said how college students weren't reading? She He all like referenced this one book review thing in this magazine or whatever called Newsweek, and said how this one chick from like Princeton was all, like,"This book sucks, I didn't read it" or something.

And so I like looked at that book review thing, and I went all, like, wow, 'cause it's totally just, you know, amazing and stuff -- a total like picture of what a college education is totally like worth, now.

In a June 17 book not-quite-review, 2010 Princeton grad Isia Jasiewicz set out to explain two books in one outing, linking Glenn Beck's The Overton Window to F.A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom. Wonderfully, Jasiewicz explains the deep obscurity of this Hayek person by pointing out that he wrote stuff that was real, like, long and stuff:

"In other words, The Road to Serfdom is a treatise on libertarianism, well-known only in academic circles or among political theory wonks stalwart enough to wade through the 60-page introduction and chapters on 'Planning and the Rule of Law' and 'The Prospects of International Order.'"

Dude, for some reason? People like buy this book and stuff -- even though parts of it are sixty pages long!

Just imagine being"stalwart" enough to"wade through" a sixty-page part of a book, ladies and gentlemen. It is unimaginable, like space flight in an old Volkswagen. Physics will not allow it.

Having woven her analysis of these two books together for an entire six paragraphs -- one more than the standard five-paragraph essay, such a long thing 2 rite! -- Jasiewicz notes at the end that she gave Beck's book the old college try:"But I stopped reading at page 10..."

In fairness, you have to give this recent graduate of the nation's top university credit for making the effort to engage with antiquity. The Road to Serfdom is an old, old book -- written, Jasiewicz notes,"in the immediate aftermath of World War II."

Which is why it was published in 1944.



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Jonathan Jarrett - 9/5/2010

I would say that the great worry here is that the activity on Amazon shows that, unbeknownst to the not-reviewer (I agree that she wasn't writing a review), Glenn Beck has a much better idea about how much people are willing to read than she does, or does the Chronicle writer or do his commentators.

Of course, Glenn Beck doesn't set essays on his students' reading.


Alan Allport - 9/5/2010

So your argument is really going to be that it's wrong to read the plain text of the piece and engage with it as written?

It's wrong - or at least pointless - to obtusely insist on a literal interpretation of every word Ms. Jasiewicz has written when the voice she uses in this article is so obviously playful. Did she read past page 10 of The Overton Window or not? I have no idea. Does it matter in the slightest, given the quite unrelated point she was trying to make? The hostility and contempt this unremarkable essay has provoked continues to baffle me.


Chris Bray - 9/5/2010

Although I would concede that "these kids today," even diluted, is going to be a little cheap. And I would just like to say that you kids get off my lawn, and stop making all that noise while the Lawrence Welk show is on.


Chris Bray - 9/5/2010

I'm less interested in the kids these days than I'm interested in the people who have a responsibility to teach them. That's the part that seems to be going poorly.


Chris Bray - 9/5/2010

"But have you considered that the writer might have been joking?"

So your argument is really going to be that it's wrong to read the plain text of the piece and engage with it as written?

She's not kidding. Prove that she is.


Jonathan Dresner - 9/5/2010

Define "Top."

And before you beat up on Princeton too badly, remember that Jasiewicz is the Princeton grad hired by Newsweek, so they were probably weeding out people with journalistic experience and integrity without even an interview.

If I were in an argumentative mood, I'd suggest that Hayek's book clearly was written with WWII in mind, though it's not complete by that point, and is arguing that an alternative system of non-government would have avoided the noisy totalitarian disaster (and even in the largely undamaged US, it was a totalizing and disruptive experience). I don't think you need to know how WWII ends to make his argument (though it does have to end a certain way for him to publish the argument), but I think that his argument might have been very different without WWII. (Or not: there's certainly others out there who argued that the pre-WWII New Deal was the same as, etc., etc.)

I'd also point out the immense number of similarly fluffy pieces from the right that attended the release of Gore's movie, etc.

But I'm not. Actually, I thought Jasiewicz's piece was callow and unenlightening, and the fact that it ended up as evidence in our perennially unserious "Kids these days" debates speaks almost as poorly of the participants as the debate itself.


Alan Allport - 9/5/2010

For someone who insists on coolly ironic detachment in his writing, you're taking that 'page 10' comment awfully literally. The "I stopped reading at ..." remark isn't the freshest of rhetorical putowns, admittedly. But have you considered that the writer might have been joking?

In any case, the article is not a review of either book. It's making the point that the merest nod from Beck can turn a relatively obscure longlist monograph into an immediate bestseller. She is not saying that reading in and of itself is a "strange and remarkable choice" - she's saying that tens of thousands of people suddenly rushing out to read Hayek is a strange and remarkable commentary on the power of men like Beck. Why this reasonable enough observation provoked such bitter sarcasm is still not clear to me.

Ms. Jasiewicz got the date of publication of Serfdom slightly wrong, something Newsweek's fact-checkers should have picked up on. In the rush to publish we all make silly mistakes from time to time, Chris. Including you.


Chris Bray - 9/5/2010

And so to complete the thought, my question is how we get a fresh new Princeton grad who thinks these books suck, I didn't read them is a thought worthy of national publication. That's not an accident -- it's a product of training.

I would argue that the best way to produce that outcome would be to treat undergraduates like houseplants -- to say, for example, "It might be perfectly legitimate to assign [book name] if the college also provided its students with a contrasting opinion."

Another way to produce this kind of non-reading, non-thinking behavior would to be relentlessly police tone -- to chide that, oh my goodness, that was snarky, that was nasty, can't you speak in more careful and civil terms?

Spoon-fed opinion, anodyne discussion, infantilized population. And all for just a quarter of a million dollars. We should put that on the t-shirts.


Chris Bray - 9/5/2010

Part and parcel, my god. Ronald Radosh:

"Let me be clear: It might be perfectly legitimate to assign 'How Does It Feel' -- if, for example, the college also provided its students with a contrasting opinion..."

Because after all, how could young adults on a university campus hope to encounter a contrasting opinion unless it was hand-delivered to them? Opinions have to be "provided," preferably on a tray. In liquid form, for consumption through a straw. ("Nurse, prepare a Victor Davis Hanson essay as an enema.")

And no opinion should be noted without instantly providing the counterbalance of its opposite. Speech must go: "X may be true -- so may Y! Just one opinion! There are others!" Hilariously, this position is articulated in a complaint about political correctness.

Radosh, continued:

"As Publisher's Weekly notes, Bayoumi's book presents testimonies from young adults who tell of summary seizures of their homes, harassment from strangers, being fired for having an Arab or Muslim name, etc..."

And? Is Radosh contesting these fact claims, or does he concede them but think it's not nice to make them (without at least shouting "Or Y! Could also be Y instead of X! Just one opinion!")?

And did Radosh read the book he's writing a whole newspaper column about, or is he really just cribbing from the Cliff Notes?

That's a joke, that last part.


Manan Ahmed - 9/5/2010

I kinda wanted this post to be about this book and these non-readings:

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/01/brooklyn-college-furor-is-more-heated-online/?apage=3

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/misshaping_minds_at_brooklyn_college_NqRyN4ujcKOHlcYdDJA08H


Chris Bray - 9/5/2010

An educated person wrote a short essay unashamedly advancing the premise that reading is a strange and remarkable choice -- only a "wonK" would be "stalwart" enough to read sixty pages -- and a team of magazine editors published an essay about a pair of books that the writer plainly says she never read.

You object to my tone. What do you think of Newsweek's decision to publish an essay about a pair of books that their writer never bothered to read? Is snark more inappropriate than that?

I didn't mean to agree or disagree with Romano, and mentioned that piece only by way of acknowledgment -- I know about the Newsweek essay only because of Romano's more recent piece.


Alan Allport - 9/5/2010

That gender puzzle aside, the snarkiness of the post (much of it unecessarily nasty, I thought) put paid to a lot of its clarity too. I'm still not really sure if you're agreeing with Romano, challenging him, both, or neither.


Chris Bray - 9/5/2010

Ah, I wasn't paying attention. Let's say that he is, so I can pretend I got it right. At least it's an enjoyable irony.


Alan Allport - 9/5/2010

Carlin Romano is female?