In the fifth episode of the 2020 Election season, I interview Dr. Carol Anderson, Charles Howard Candler Professor of African American Studies at Emory University. She talks about growing up as a “military brat,” and what initially drew her to history. Dr. Anderson says we must view Trump as an abuser, and that the closer we get to leaving him the more he will lose control – we can “expect every trick in the book.” We discuss the state of American democracy, and she points out several areas of focus that need attention and work. Aptly describing white supremacy as “the most powerful drug in America,” Dr. Anderson ends our interview by offering sage advice about a path forward for all Americans.