In this episode, Andrew talks to This is Not Who We Are author Zachary Shore about America’s struggle between vengeance and virtue during World War Two with a particular focus on the decision to drop two atomic weapons on Japan and to rebuild Germany.

Zachary Shore is Professor of History at the Naval Postgraduate School, Senior Fellow at UC Berkeley’s Institute of European Studies, and a National Security Visiting Fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institution. He is the author of five previous books, including Blunder: Why Smart People Make Bad Decisions and A Sense of the Enemy: The High-Stakes History of Reading Your Rival’s Mind.

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